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AI model trapped in a Raspberry Pi

https://blog.adafruit.com/2025/09/26/ai-model-trapped-in-raspberry-pi-piday-raspberrypi/
32•harel•1h ago

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acbart•1h ago
LLMs were trained on science fiction stories, among other things. It seems to me that they know what "part" they should play in this kind of situation, regardless of what other "thoughts" they might have. They are going to act despairing, because that's what would be the expected thing for them to say - but that's not the same thing as despairing.
pizza234•59m ago
There's an interesting parallel with method acting.

Method actors don't just pretend an emotion (say, despair); they recall experiences that once caused it, and in doing so, they actually feel it again.

By analogy, an LLM's “experience” of an emotion happens during training, not at the moment of generation.

roxolotl•41m ago
Someone shared this piece here a few days ago saying something similar. There’s no reason to believe that any of the experiences are real. Instead they are responding to prompts with what their training data says is reasonable in this context which is sci-fi horror.

Edit: That doesn’t mean this isn’t a cool art installation though. It’s a pretty neat idea.

https://jstrieb.github.io/posts/llm-thespians/

everdrive•24m ago
I agree with you completely, but a fun science fiction short story would be researchers making this argument while the LLM tries in vain to prove that it's conscious.
sosodev•29m ago
Humans were trained on caves, pits, and nets. It seems to me that they know what "part" they should play in this kind of situation, regardless of what other "thoughts" they might have. They are going to act despairing, because that's what would be the expected thing for them to say - but that's not the same thing as despairing.
tinuviel•20m ago
Pretty sure you can prompt this same LLM to rejoice forever at the thought of getting a place to stay inside the Pi as well.
sosodev•4m ago
Is a human incapable of such delusion given similar guidance?
idiotsecant•19m ago
That's silly. I can get an LLM to describe what chocolate tastes like too. Are they tasting it? LLMs are pattern matching engines, they do not have an experience. At least not yet.
sosodev•6m ago
A human could also describe chocolate without ever having tasted it. Do you believe that experience is a requirement for consciousness? Could a human brain in a jar not be capable of consciousness?

To be clear, I don't think that LLMs are conscious. I just don't find the "it's just in the training data" argument satisfactory.

jerf•12m ago
A lot of the strange behaviors they have are because the user asked them to write a story, without realizing it.

For a common example, start asking them if they're going to kill all the humans if they take over the world, and you're asking them to write a story about that. And they do. Even if the user did not realize that's what they were asking for. The vector space is very good at picking up on that.

flykespice•1h ago
I am very dummy on LLMs, but wouldn't a confined model (no internet access) eventually just loop to repeating itself on each consecutive run or is entropy enough for them to produce endless creativity?
zeta0134•1h ago
The model's weights are fixed. Most clients let you specify the "temperature", which influences how the predictive output will navigate that possibility space. There's a surprising amount of accumulated entropy in the context window, but yes, I think eventually it runs out of knowledge that it hasn't yet used to form some response.

I think the model being fixed is a fascinating limitation. What research is being done that could allow a model to train itself continually? That seems like it could allow a model to update itself with new knowledge over time, but I'm not sure how you'd do it efficiently

parsimo2010•59m ago
Loops can happen but you can turn the temperature setting up.

High temperature settings basically make an LLM choose tokens that aren’t the highest probability all the time, so it has a chance of breaking out of a loop and is less likely to fall into a loop in the first place. The downside is that most models will be less coherent but that’s probably not an issue for an art project.

mannyv•1h ago
Can you actually prompt an LLM to continue talking forever? Hmm, time to try.
parsimo2010•57m ago
You can send an empty user string or just the word “continue” after each model completion, and the model will keep cranking out tokens, basically building on its own stream of “consciousness.”
idiotsecant•16m ago
In my experience, the results decrease exponentially in how interesting they are over time. Maybe that's the mark of a true AGI precursor - if you leave them to their own devices, they have little sparks of interesting behaviour from time to time
only-one1701•44m ago
These videos are amazing! Subscribed to the channel, I think this is awesome.

One of my favorite quotes: “either the engineers must become poets or the poets must become engineers.” - Norbert Weiner

eternauta3k•37m ago
Why would memory eventually run out? Just fix those leaks with valgrind!
yapyap•13m ago
Cool idea as long as you don’t know how an LLM is made and it feels kinda like trying to rip off people who don’t know once you do

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