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Tesla Is Urging Drowsy Drivers to Use 'Full Self-Driving'. That Could Go Wrong

https://www.wired.com/story/story/tesla-urging-drowsy-drivers-to-use-full-self-driving-that-could-go-very-wrong/
3•Veserv•1h ago

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Veserv•1h ago
https://archive.ph/ghyiq
jqpabc123•1h ago
Tesla's FSD is fully dependent on visual camera feedback.

When (not if) visuals are obscured, there is no backup. The vehicle is driving blind.

This is a fundamental engineering failure --- a lack of redundancy in a critical safety system. It can't/won't be fully overcome without additional feedback in my opinion.

anonym29•56m ago
I've read that going without sleep for just 24 hours is worse for your reaction times than having a blood alcohol content of 0.08, exceeding the legal limit.

Obviously the most responsible choice is to not drive while sleep deprived, or to pull over to a safe location and rest if one is too drowsy to operate a vehicle.

That said, if one is refusing to do that, for whatever reason, I have a hard time believing the upcoming FSD 14 stack is going to be more dangerous than driving drunk, or than driving while so drowsy as to be equally unsafe to driving drunk.

The older pre-NN stacks definitely weren't "there", but it requires either a meaningful ignorance or motivated partisanship to argue that FSD 13 isn't at least approaching the threshold of being a better driver than the worst drivers on the road, if not definitively better.

David Foster Wallace Tried to Warn Us About These Eight Things

https://www.honest-broker.com/p/david-foster-wallace-tried-to-warn
1•paulpauper•32s ago•0 comments

Review: The Russo-Ukrainian War

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/your-review-the-russo-ukrainian-war
1•paulpauper•43s ago•0 comments

I'm Marty Stouffer [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhuA1dZHoOU
1•ofalkaed•1m ago•0 comments

Why Apple Has a Big AI Problem [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZD8_imniuo
1•retskrad•2m ago•0 comments

Justice Clarence Thomas says legal precedents are not 'the gospel'

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/justice-clarence-thomas-legal-precedents-gospel/story?id=125967044
1•throw0101c•2m ago•0 comments

Americans Are Using PTO to Sleep, Not for Vacation–Report

https://www.newsweek.com/americans-are-using-pto-to-sleep-not-for-vacation-report-10783162
2•randycupertino•4m ago•1 comments

Justice Department Seeks Information on Georgia D.A. Who Prosecuted Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/26/us/justice-department-fani-willis-trump.html
2•throw0101c•7m ago•1 comments

Scaling Beyond Memory: How Materialize Uses Swap for Larger Workloads

https://materialize.com/blog/scaling-beyond-memory/
1•jitl•11m ago•0 comments

Capnwebcpp – a small Cap'n Web C++ server library

https://github.com/nnevatie/capnwebcpp
1•nnevatie•14m ago•1 comments

Quantum Fuse – A Two-Qubit Quantum Computer

https://github.com/ingen0s/quantumfuse
1•ingen0s•16m ago•1 comments

Show HN: Comparing iTerm2 and Neovim Theme Similarity

https://rpubs.com/samesense/theme_colors
2•samesense•16m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Is the "AI Boom" a Python Boom?

1•dpflan•19m ago•0 comments

Show HN: I build a desktop tool to convert files & edit PDFs/audio/video offline

https://convertfast.co/
1•amsaleque•19m ago•1 comments

'An attacker's playground:' Crims exploit GoAnywhere perfect-10 bug

https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/26/an_apts_playground_goanywhere_perfect10/
1•Bender•20m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Blognerd – search posts, blogs and export OPML

https://blognerd.app
1•alastairr•20m ago•0 comments

What banning AI surveillance should look like, at a minimum

https://gabrielweinberg.com/p/what-banning-ai-surveillance-looks
1•FromTheArchives•21m ago•0 comments

800k tons of mud probably just made electronics a little more expensive

https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/26/grasberg_accident_copper_prices/
2•Bender•22m ago•0 comments

SpaceX Dragon huffs, puffs and fizzles out as NASA aborts ISS boost

https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/26/iss_reboost_attempt_aborted/
1•Bender•23m ago•0 comments

Tribunal upholds 'catastrophic' Ancestry request to access Scottish records

https://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/ancestry-nrs-records
1•ilamont•24m ago•0 comments

The real (economic) AI apocalypse is nigh

https://pluralistic.net/2025/09/27/econopocalypse/#subprime-intelligence
1•NotInOurNames•24m ago•0 comments

UK Households hit with higher bills that sees wind farms paid to turn off power

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/octopus-energy-greg-jackson-wind-farms-climate-b2828...
1•eldaisfish•25m ago•1 comments

Exploring Terminals, TTYs, and PTYs

https://cefboud.com/posts/terminals-pty-tty-pyte/
1•birdculture•28m ago•0 comments

Corporate ABUSE OF THE H-1B VISA PROGRAM

https://twitter.com/JudiciaryDems/status/1971298854273445952
1•kappi•29m ago•1 comments

Show HN: LunchSTEM (probably) the best STEM knowledge base in the world

https://github.com/Freelunch-AI/lunch-stem
1•BrunoScaglione•34m ago•0 comments

Morgan Stanley warns AI could sink 42-year-old software giant

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/morgan-stanley-warns-ai-could-180300766.html
2•taubek•36m ago•0 comments

Show HN: NextMin – Schema-Driven APIs with Hot Reloading

https://nextmin.gscodes.dev/
2•tareqaziz0065•37m ago•0 comments

KidSearch – a safe, educational search engine I built for my son

https://github.com/laurentftech/kidsearch
1•laurentftech•37m ago•2 comments

The Fastest-Selling Cars in America Are Used EVs

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-09-27/the-us-used-electric-vehicle-market-is-taking-...
1•zachshefska•38m ago•0 comments

Cursor Learn

https://cursor.com/learn
1•meetpateltech•40m ago•0 comments

Trying to reach 100K co-learning sessions in 100 days

https://twitter.com/implabinash/status/1971931899435340086
1•implabinash•42m ago•1 comments