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Bob Ross paintings to be auctioned to fund US public broadcasting

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly10275v5zo
65•breve•3h ago

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charcircuit•1h ago
>continues to support the very medium that brought his joy and creativity into American homes

The message is more important than the medium. With the advent of the internet and platforms like YouTube it's easier than ever to get your video, your message, into the homes of America.

Avicebron•1h ago
When the way of consuming the medium changes, the message it carries changes as well. The reason public broadcasting is so well loved and "special" is that it was something collective (out of necessity). If I don't like charcircuit, I can find a youtube video declaring charcircuit a dangerous enemy combatant. When you are the only game in town, there was a sense of making it somewhat "casual" and we got things like bob ross and mr. rogers neighbourhood.
derektank•1h ago
Sure, but PBS member stations also function as incubators, in addition to providing a platform. They provide (along with underwriting from 3rd party charitable institutions) artists/intellectuals/entertainers the upfront capital to produce their programming. YouTube isn't going to provide anyone with money upfront to make a show unless they already have a massive following. Mr. Rogers Neighborhood wouldn't exist if WQED hadn't taken a chance on a couple of 20 something's letting them produce Children's Corner in 1958.

It's certainly possible that's less necessary nowadays, given how cheap filming and creating video content is nowadays, but it's worth considering.

charcircuit•1h ago
Youtube has incubated many multiples the number of creators than PBS member stations despite not providing upfront funding. Most creators don't start out from corporations or business loans.
throwawaymaths•1h ago
exactly. would veritasium, 3brown1blue, action lab, nile blue/red, up and atom, simone, etc. even exist via the PBS funding model?
em-bee•18m ago
which channel is simone? the name is too generic, a search only turns up uninteresting stuff.
ipython•1h ago
Let’s compare MrBeast with Mr Rogers…
linehedonist•36m ago
We got Ms Rachel from YouTube, who is genuinely fantastic.
koolala•1h ago
Imagine YouTube but publicly funded. No horrible AI targetted ads without any restraint. No monopolistic control over half the worlds viewing devices to control what's installed.

Instead, public good free informational content.

mlrtime•1h ago
Now Imagine it costs 100x what it costs google to run, but it has 1/100th the features and is down often.
unnamed76ri•25m ago
The statists are downvoting you with gusto
captainkrtek•1h ago
It blow’s my mind that PBS is considered political.

Yes, the globalist elites of public broadcasting are trying to control you via Bob Ross, Mr. Rogers, and other sick folks. /s

It’s a sad state of affairs that we’ve found a way to politicize everything down to PBS and NOAA…

tw04•1h ago
“We” aren’t politicizing anything. Trump calls anyone reporting facts he doesn’t like politically biased. Reality is politically biased to him because it doesn’t conform to his pathological lying.
cbb330•1h ago
PBS is not simply Bob Ross and Mr Rogers. for example, PBS NewsHour

Also NOAA receives significant funding for climate change efforts primarily from the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law and the Inflation Reduction Act

Zhenya•1h ago
This is how you know you live in a bubble.

PBS is unbelievably slanted; you just happen to agree with them in general.

Here is the CEO of PBS saying insane things about the truth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPYXrhOXkwU

"The truth is a distraction"

Alupis•55m ago
People often equate "Public" with meaning "middle-center" or "apolitical". Many would claim National Public Radio (NPR) is middle-center, politically-speaking.

Plenty of people disagree with that statement, and those who agree tend to like NPR's messaging - hence the "bubble" you referred to. Good, non-partisan reporting should make "both sides" groan from time to time.

If you find yourself in agreement with nearly everything said, then it's a fair sign the politics lean "your direction".

chii•25m ago
that's a mischaracterization of what neutral or apolitical is.

The broadcaster doesnt have to report that killing puppies is good once in a while!

linehedonist•37m ago
That is the CEO of NPR, not PBS.

In that video you link to she’s talking about Wikipedia. I think her generalization is inappropriate, but her central point is a sound one: it’s crucial to Wikipedia’s purpose that Wikipedia does not seek truth directly, but aims to be an accurate summary of the best sources available.

in_cahoots•55m ago
PBS kids shows teach (sometimes via a heavy hand, I'll admit) things like acceptance of people of different skin colors and ability levels. There's a show featuring Inuits called Molly of Denali, not McKinley. Some of the characters are even LGB (not trans as far as I've seen). Sadly in the current world these concepts are considered 'political'.
alberth•1h ago
I’m a big fan of NPR and the quality of their journalism.

But it’s always struck me as odd that their frequent pledge drives suggest the ads they run don’t actually cover their costs.

In effect, each 30-second pledge driver must generate more revenue than a 30-second sponsor ad — which seems like a flaw in their revenue model, where donations are more valuable per minute than their core revenue generating business model.

slantedview•46m ago
As corporate media demonstrates, depending on ads and therefore, corporations, inevitably leads to compromises in your news coverage. NPR has tried to avoid this.
chii•27m ago
donations from viewers don't come with strings attached, where as advertisers want content that is conducive to the agendas of the advertisers (which generally is something that enables their bottom line, more or less).

That is why donations are better, even if it makes less direct cash.

somenameforme•12m ago
It's brand advertising itself, precisely to give the impression of 'being funded by listeners like you.' NPR has navigated trust far better than average for the media. A quick search shows some 54% trust in them, contrasted against 28% for the media at large.

When media runs non-stop pharmaceutical ads you obviously question their motivation when reporting on pharmaceutical adjacent topics, which are almost invariably neutral to positive. Yet when NPR runs non-stop Walmart articles [1], often in a neutral to positive fashion, most are unaware that they've received millions of dollars from the Waltons.

And FWIW those millions the Waltons have given aren't that much relative to their overall funding, but if you saw an equivalent amount of annual advertising from the Waltons on NPR, you'd certainly be looking at those articles from a different perspective than somebody who's unaware of said funding.

[1] - https://www.npr.org/search/?query=walmart&page=1

axiolite•1h ago
Wouldn't it be better to let those towers go dark, and await the public outcry, instead of temporarily hiding the effects?

The PBS affiliate stations in most need of federal funding are typically in rural, largely Republican areas. Let their own base tell the party they're not happy about being cut-off from their baseball documentaries and all the educational shows their kids watch.

linehedonist•45m ago
Or maybe those stations will simply close, never to be reopened, which in the grand scheme of things seems like a worse outcome.
bagels•38m ago
This is the worse outcome, and the more likely one.
heohk•36m ago
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