If fine-print is confusing consumers maybe we should improve our labeling standards rather than protecting a food category not in need of protection.
But burger? Sure, burgers are often beef, but there have always been other kinds. "Chicken burger", "crab burger", so why not "veggie burger".
The EU likes making regulations, to the point that they are killing their own industry
I don’t understand how banning a specific term will address this general case.
Example: https://www.ruegenwalder.de/website/produkte/vegan/2491/imag...
Vegan cheese packaging:
https://verbund.edeka/verbund/presse/eigenmarken-portal/my-v...
https://www.verbraucherzentrale-bremen.de/sites/default/file...
Plus, usually dedicated/labelled sections and optical separation in the supermarket:
https://www.deutschlandistvegan.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/0...
https://preview.redd.it/k%C3%B6nnen-wir-das-vegane-angebot-v...
Granted, it is rather obvious in Germany as you said because those foods are most typically purchased from a section dedicated to them and not mixed with others.
But the point I’m making is that even your example image was not clear.
but obviously not chicken augmented with soy
But there are a lot of folks without that knowledge.
1. even this will be illegal
2. why not: there are countless of vegetarian Burger types, one of them is one in the style of crispy chicken burgers - without meat
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=yes+minister+euro+sausage&ia=...
I think the idea just bothers me, “vegetables aren’t good enough, what you really want is fake meat.”
I'd encourage new vegetarians to try embracing vegetarian staples from places like India, where culinary traditions have a lengthy proven history of supporting healthy and satisfying vegetarianism.
But I'd also say, some veggie burgers really are great. They taste good, they're satisfying, and nobody is deceived when they read "veggie burger" on the menu. This regulation is nonsense. It's just telling vegetarians that their linguistic tradition around their diets -- part of their cultural heritage -- is now banned in the EU.
I’d try more if you have recommendations. I think I hit all the major players though.
Edit: I noticed you were downvoted and just want to advocate for you. I don’t know why people have such reactions to reasonable discussions :/ If you’re reading this I want you to know I appreciate your comment and I hope you aren’t discouraged from sharing in the future.
So many delicious dishes from world regions where being a vegetarian is the norm.
The marketing and availability impact behavior.
Things like this bring the very useful tool of regulations into disrepute.
"Veggie burger" as a term has been in common usage by the public long before any of the other words that convey the same thing.
In Europe people tend to be the first kind and see the government as tool for protecting them from the second kind.
The revolution is unlikely.
The "veggie burger" can be in the text of Malta or Ireland but who knows. They are talking about protecting some words. There are so many languages in EU, everyone calls these things differently. There's something similar against calling things not made from dairy milk or yogurt.
Vegans are infuriated apparently, maybe they can join forces with the libertarians and topple the EU so they can fight among themselves in peace.
I don't think accurate food labeling is a bad thing but the contension shouldn't really be around burger to me that's just a pressed shape of cruft but the veggie part. Because Veggie I feel like implies vegatable but like soy-protein or bean mush or impossible burger all could be classified as a veggie burger but like they are very different things and have very different additives. I don't think we are crushing people or industry by trying to accurately label foods though.
I do think that the protectinism to regional foods confusing though. It would be interesting if you could make "feta" elsewhere than in greece for example, but maybe like the originating countries could get a special sigil rather than an exclusively protected food name when its basically indistingusiable to all but a connoisseur.
Honestly, this feels like a smoke and mirrors done ahead of Mercosur agreement enrollment which may put European farmers especially the smaller ones on lost position facing competition from South America.
Let the verbal gymnastics commence. Or maybe places should start naming veggie burgers after the EU governance in satire?
I tilt against the windmills of the “vegetarian omelette”.
I think they should just label things more explicitly like this - accelerate veganism 100x when people in the supermarkets have to choose between “pressed soybeans” and “mammary gland secretions”.
It would be nice to focus on solving more existential problems of which there are enough.
Meanwhile, back in 1755:
> MILK. n.s. [meelc, Saxon; melck, Dutch.]
> 2. Emulsion made by contusion of seeds.
> Pistachoes, so they be good and not musty, joined with almonds in almond milk, or made into a milk of themselves, like unto almond milk, are an excellent nourisher.
Sure, you can't call a veggie patty a beef patty, but how does the meat industry own the word burger?
theandrewbailey•4h ago
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