I’m not in sales. I’m what would be considered a “post sales architect” who is the first person a client talks to once the sale is closed and responsible for delivery. But I’m high enough up the funnel and work closely enough with sales and marketing to appreciate them.
And honestly before ARM based Macs, Mac laptops sucked about as bad as Windows laptops and near the end of the x86 run, they were actually worse.
Much of my job is now customer onboarding, so I work closer with sales and solution architects. I also fill in for the solution architects when they're spread too thin for the events marketing has set up. The struggles faced by those teams are entirely different than those on the engineering and support side, and while it might not seem fair, a good corporate culture means everyone is motivated to work hard. Many of those roles are based on comission, so their financial and career prospects are worse than ours when they're not fully dedicated and producing results.
In terms of who gets what computer, it's unfortunate that the majority of users will be people who have average (or less than average) technical skills. That means a lot of them are afraid to even try macOS and will want to go back to PCs as soon as some trivial difference gives them the slightest uncertanty. Personally, I'd love to work on a rice'd hyprland system all day, but the fact that the business relies on BS like MS/Google collaboration software, our CRM has no keyboard shortcuts, etc. means technical users will always be held back.
10 years ago we were a Mac-only shop, but then we exchanged our CTO for a bean counter and switched to Windows.
1. At trade shows, the superior battery life and screen quality make our 1:1 demos stand out. It impresses a lot of PC-focused prospects. I can't go one day at a trade show without someone basically saying "ooh, wow, a Mac!"
2. Using a Mac with an iPhone means I can send/receive texts messages with customers/coworkers from both devices. Also, they like to see the blue bubble in Messages.
3. When used together with any Apple device, AirPods save a small but VALUABLE amount of time when a headset is desirable for meetings/calls. Seriously, AirPods are the least fiddly of any headset I've ever had to use with a computer.
4. Microphone, noise cancelling, and camera quality are quite good on Mac/iPhone. The experience has been better than any PC I've used and it's the general consensus at the company.
The benefits are so good that I would avoid working for another employer who didn't offer Mac as an option.
Also, screw Apple for their ridiculous prices, lawbreaking, gaslighting of their users, their stance on repairability, the lack of "Alt+Tab" in macOS, the lack of "Right-Click > New > Text Document" etc. in Finder, and other such intentional choices to limit functionality of their devices.
Why would I care about repairability of a work laptop? If something breaks, I talk to my IT department and since they have a business contract with Apple, I take it to the Apple Store and if they can’t repair it right then, they give me another one.
True AirPods aren’t fiddly. But neither are just plugging in wired headphones.
Setting Apple aside, bluetooth multipoint is a game changer for how I use laptops and headsets. I agree that wired headsets are fantastic. For years I used OnePlus phones because they held on to the venreble 3.5mm jack longer than other Android phones. When traveling, however, the bluetooth multipoint headsets are considerably more convenient than wired headsets. With the work Mac and iPhone, Apple's proprietary fast switching makes this very seamless. I look forward to the day when the similar Fast Pair from Google works on non-Chromebook laptops.
>Why would I care about the repeatability of a work laptop? If something breaks, I talk to my IT department
We are a remote company, so going to the IT department is not always the most feasible option. In addition to the Mac, I have Linux and Windows computers for work. My employer lets me do things like expense M.2 drives and install them on those systems. Virtual environments are helpful and having both operating systems helps to validate our on-prem offering works with KVM and Hyper-V. Due to the soldered storage (and ARM CPU), I accept this is not feasible with today's Macs, but also recognize this was Apple's choice and it did not have to be this way.
I wouldn’t be surprised if my current company - a third party AWS consulting company - wouldn’t just buy a laptop from Apple on their corporate account and tell me to pick it up from the local Apple Store and ship my old one back to the company.
That’s how I got my original one when I first started
Amazon - the first company I worked for remotely - had me use my own personal computer and log in to corporate approved internal AWS Workspace with the same software as they image their Windows computers until my Mac shipped. They would have done the same if I needed a replacement.
As far as installing drives, Thunderbolt is more than fast enough to use any external hard drive
My remote work journey started with IBM in 2015. A few team members got Macs while the rest were issued beefy ThinkPads. It was one of the first large organizations I've seen that intentionally chose not to use Active Directory for their PC fleets. Unsurprisingly, IBM had IT service centers globally distributed. Despite the wider availability of service centers, I also installed extra storage and RAM myself on that ThinkPad.
It's great that remote work has taken off especially since Covid-19.
floundy•2h ago
Apple is offering some great value for the money with the M4 chip now, the Mac Mini is $600 and the 13" MacBook Air is $1k.
The real killer is of course the corporate monitoring software and bloated endpoint security suites, we can all point to dozens of coworkers as the reason these exist, and unfortunately as far as I know of there's no corpos that do an "idiot test" to allow people who have demonstrated computer literacy and compliance with corpo security policy to be placed in a less restrictive group.
A Raspberry Pi with an SSD is much snappier than the newest and much more powerful business-grade laptops our employees are issued with all the bloatware on them.
mytailorisrich•2h ago
We have quintessentially corporate Dells, which retail for about the same as Macs, and they come with full corporate support contracts... they sent someone to change the motherboard in mine, for instance. Support contracts are important in corporate settings, not just cost.
And of course, very often corporate IT only knows Windows and MS in general so says they can't support anything else.
raw_anon_1111•55m ago
With the company I work for now (700 people) , they would most likely arrange a replacement shipped directly from Apple new or from their internal IT department and I ship the old one back to the IT department and they deal with Apple. When I was hired, I could have either had my computer come directly from Apple or I chose to go to the local Apple Store to pick it up. The serial number was registered to the company.