SF pros:
- Bigger AI scene, younger people, more cool network and job opportunities at the frontier of AI
SF cons:
- Low WLB, 996 culture, most likely I get paid in paper money, low safety, higher cost, further from family, traffic and parking sucks, SFH prices are insane.
South Bay pros:
- Very good WLB and family first culture, a lot safer neighborhoods, still in Bay Area, decent selection of AI opportunities, lower cost, close to family.
South Bay cons:
- Less young people, further from the heart of AI, more stable Big Tech opportunities also mean slower career and network growth, traffic sucks, SFH are also pricey.
Anyone with experience in both areas can comment? Is my FOMO justified?
k310•3mo ago
I had jobs in Sunnyvale and Palo Alto and when I got a Berkeley job, moved to the east bay. During my stay there, I had jobs in Berkeley, San Francisco, and Pleasanton (Sun had a nice office there).
I later joined a startup whose CEO kept moving the office every time he moved his home. Count that as a mistake.
But from the east bay, I BART'ed to both Berkeley and San Francisco, which beat the daylights out of commuting by auto.
Having a family, SF was never an option. Now that I'm retired, I might just wait for the "AI-Pocalypse" and move to SF. (yeah, beware of that. Those billions have not produced revenue, and who knows if they ever will?)
fishmeat•3mo ago
> But from the east bay, I BART'ed to both Berkeley and San Francisco, which beat the daylights out of commuting by auto.
Would you say this is more true for hybrid arrangement or also for full RTO?
k310•3mo ago
I'd have to ask my son in law about current conditions, and I'll pass this thread along to him for comment.
East Bay homes were more affordable than either SF or SB.
I can't say why the apparent migration was to SF and not eastward. While working at the Sun office in Pleasanton, it was a reverse commute, only hampered by sun angles. But we visited customers, so it was a split between flex office (with Sunrays) and NorCal travel.
Passing this along. Kids live in the East Bay.