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'Phased Out'–Google Confirms Bad News for All 3B Chrome Users

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2025/10/19/phased-out-google-confirms-bad-news-for-all-3-...
1•RupertWiser•1m ago•0 comments

Elites seek to retain their power: Lampedusa's The Leopard skewered super-rich

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20250304-the-leopard-the-1958-italian-novel-that-skewered-the...
1•walterbell•1m ago•0 comments

Amazon's AWS struggles to recover after major outage disrupts apps, services

https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/amazons-cloud-unit-reports-outage-several-websit...
2•fatihkocnet•2m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Why is LinkedIn's job search so bad?

1•dcminter•3m ago•0 comments

Claude Skills Considered Harmful

https://sibylline.dev/articles/2025-10-20-claude-skills-considered-harmful/
2•CuriouslyC•4m ago•0 comments

Hitlerism, Trumpism, Netanyahuism, Le M, Macronism

https://emmanueltodd.substack.com/p/hitlerism-trumpism-netanyahuism-le
2•hackandthink•4m ago•0 comments

Bubble, Bubble, Toil and Trouble

https://thezvi.substack.com/p/bubble-bubble-toil-and-trouble
1•ctoth•4m ago•0 comments

Spreadsheets: The Second Best Tool for the Job

https://yakirhavin.com/blog/spreadsheets-the-second-best-tool-for-the-job/
1•yhavin•5m ago•0 comments

Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

https://status.postman.com
3•helloguillecl•9m ago•1 comments

A timetree of Fungi dated with fossils and horizontal gene transfers

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-025-02851-z
1•PaulHoule•10m ago•0 comments

Can AI Avoid the Enshittification Trap?

https://www.wired.com/story/can-ai-escape-enshittification-trap/
2•CharlesW•16m ago•0 comments

Show HN: JIT compilation of NES ROMs / 6502 programs to .NET MSIL

https://github.com/KallDrexx/Dotnet6502
1•KallDrexx•17m ago•0 comments

Birchdocs, my personal docs site

https://birchdocs.tokyo
2•LinguaBrowse•18m ago•2 comments

Amazon outage takes down Venmo, Ring, Reddit and much of the internet

https://www.techradar.com/news/live/amazon-web-services-alexa-ring-snapchat-fortnite-down-october...
5•CharlesW•19m ago•0 comments

TSMC's dilemma, OpenAI or Oracle, prediction on ambient computing

https://myriadperspectives.com/p/openais-road-to-become-a-hyperscaler
2•leecmjohnny•20m ago•0 comments

Why and how I rewrote these Obsidian plugins

https://johnwhiles.com/posts/obsidian-plugins
3•jwhiles•20m ago•0 comments

OpenAI is losing about three times more money than it's earning

https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/15/openais_chatgpt_popular_few_pay/
4•hansmayer•20m ago•1 comments

Show HN: Spark Slider – Lightweight React Carousel (12KB, TypeScript)

https://github.com/AshBuk/framer-motion-spark-slider
1•AshBuk•21m ago•1 comments

MTEB v2: Evaluation of embedding and retrieval systems for more than just text

https://huggingface.co/blog/isaacchung/mteb-v2
2•lairv•21m ago•0 comments

Subretinal Photovoltaic Implant Restores Vision in Geographic Atrophy Due to AMD

https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2501396
1•bookofjoe•23m ago•0 comments

Multi-Region Deployments with CDK

https://makingituptech.substack.com/p/multi-region-deployments-with-cdk
1•djlewald•23m ago•0 comments

Benefits of Undefined Behavior

https://mazzo.li/posts/undefined-behavior.html
2•01-_-•23m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Guardrail Layer – self-hosted AI data layer for secure DB chat

https://github.com/tyoung1996/guardrail-layer
1•tcodeking•24m ago•0 comments

AWS Cut Jobs 3 Months Ago

https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/amazons-aws-cloud-computing-unit-cuts-least-hund...
5•thisismytest•25m ago•1 comments

Apple Pioneer Bill Atkinson Was a Secret Evangelist of the 'God Molecule'

https://www.wired.com/story/apple-pioneer-bill-atkinson-was-a-secret-evangelist-of-the-god-molecule/
2•bookofjoe•27m ago•1 comments

Disaster Insured Losses Top $100B for Sixth Year in a Row

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-15/disaster-insured-losses-top-100-billion-for-si...
1•toomuchtodo•28m ago•1 comments

Signs of AI Writing on Wikipedia

https://flowingdata.com/2025/10/20/signs-of-ai-writing-on-wikipedia/
2•Hard_Space•31m ago•1 comments

Fury Mounts over a Global A.I. Frenzy

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/20/technology/ai-data-center-backlash-mexico-ireland.html
2•moneycantbuy•33m ago•0 comments

AI New Mirror Engine

https://github.com/fieryseaturtle-dotcom/My-Mirror-Engine-for-AI
1•FierySeaTurtle•34m ago•0 comments

Got a Netflix letter about 30k failed login attempts traced to my IP

https://old.reddit.com/r/SaladChefs/comments/1oa3k5o/got_a_netflix_letter_about_30000_failed_login/
3•takoid•34m ago•1 comments
Open in hackernews

Servo v0.0.1 Released

https://github.com/servo/servo
232•undeveloper•2h ago

Comments

adzm•2h ago
From the blog at https://servo.org/blog/2025/10/20/servo-0.0.1-release/

> Today, the Servo team has released new versions of the servoshell binaries for all our supported platforms, tagged v0.0.1. These binaries are essentially the same nightly builds that were already available from the download page with additional manual testing, now tagging them explicitly as releases for future reference.

> We plan to publish such a tagged release every month. For now, we are adopting a simple release process where we will use a recent nightly build and perform additional manual testing to identify issues and regressions before tagging and publishing the binaries.

> There are currently no plans to publish these releases on crates.io or platform-specific app stores. The goal is just to publish tagged releases on GitHub.

bastawhiz•1h ago
Is it as simple as "now is as good a time as any to start tagging releases"? There's no special motivating factor that drove this to happen now?
sebsebmc•1h ago
That's roughly correct. The other side of this is figuring out a release process and thinking about versioning.
swiftcoder•9m ago
I think it's also that they finally got Mac/Arm releases sorted, so now they have the full platform support matrix for nightlies?
zwnow•2h ago
Is there a remind me bot once a relevant version number releases? Like 1.0 for example
bdcravens•1h ago
That might be a while. It's taken 5 years from being transferred to the Linux Foundation to get to 0.0.1.
someplaceguy•24m ago
All the more reason for asking the question?
nicoburns•2h ago
The release announcement doesn't contain much information, but Servo does publish regular "This month in Servo" updates on their blog which contain lots of details:

- Blog: https://servo.org/blog/

- Most recent TMIS post https://servo.org/blog/2025/09/25/this-month-in-servo/

Check them out if you're interested in what's going on with Servo.

CaptainOfCoit•2h ago
Is Servo ready if I want to play around with it in a embedded-browser capacity? Say I wanted to have some basic HTML+CSS UI, can I create a Rust binary that embeds Servo+those resources and it kind of works?
ryukoposting•1h ago
I tried it as a little preview window for writing my blog, which is (in my opinion) very basic HTML and CSS. Whole page rendered wrong, though I admit I didn't bother to find out why. Give it a shot, but keep your expectations low.
lastontheboat•1h ago
Link? I'm a Servo maintainer and I appreciate test cases like that.
Imustaskforhelp•1h ago
I tried my simple html css website and it kinda worked actually. Even the dark mode/light mode worked but it was also minimalist pure html css website
sebsebmc•1h ago
If you have a basic site that doesn't work you can open an issue on the repo. If you have some relatively simple site, its useful for the team to know what features that people are using are broken.
fschuett•1h ago
You would end up simply with Electron 2.0. I tried de-entangling the Servo CSS / JS / Layout engine some years ago, to see if it would be more lightweight, it wasn't: https://github.com/fschutt/servo_gui_test (62 MB binary size, several hundred MB RAM usage IIRC)

I am currently working on getting https://azul.rs/reftest ready, which uses some of the underlying technologies as Servo (taffy-layout, webrender) but uses no JavaScript and also has a C / Python API. Azul is basically that, except it's not usable yet.

nicoburns•1h ago
See my comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45644277) about Blitz. Perhaps you might be interested in collaborating :)

Also, we're not using it in Blitz (although it could be added as a backend) but a note that WebRender is maintained. See Servo's most recent 0.68 branch (https://github.com/servo/webrender/tree/0.68) and also ongoing upstream development in the Firefox repository https://github.com/mozilla-firefox/firefox/tree/main/gfx/wr

nicoburns•1h ago
If you don't need JavaScript, then you might be interested in https://github.com/DioxusLabs/blitz.

It pulls in Servo/Firefox's CSS engine Stylo (and Servo's HTML parser html5ever) and pairs it with our own layout engine (which we are implementing mostly as libraries: Taffy [0] for box-level layout and Parley [1] for text/inline layout) and DOM implementation. Rendering and networking are abstracted behind traits (with default implementations available) and you can drive it using your own event loop.

Minimal binary sizes are around 5mb (although more typical build would be more like 10-15mb).

[0]: https://github.com/DioxusLabs/taffy [1]: https://github.com/linebender/parley

Vinnl•1h ago
Igalia (who are heading Servo nowadays), say:

> Embedding Servo into applications requires a stable and complete WebView API. While early work exists, it’s not yet ready for general use.

(While announcing that they got funded to fix that.)

https://www.igalia.com/2025/10/09/Igalia,-Servo,-and-the-Sov...

natemcintosh•1h ago
Tried it out on Linux. Worked better than I expected. Sites that are text heavy render well, and quickly. Sites with more "customization" sometimes struggled with rendering; stuff all over the place. Memory usage seemed a bit higher than Firefox with the same tabs, but not out of this world higher.

All in all, an impressive release.

Aissen•1h ago
A few hours ago, just a few comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45642051
altairprime•59m ago
If you email the mods they’ll merge the duplicate discussions. Footer contact link.
clot27•1h ago
I am sooo ready to ditch chrome and firefox duopoly
lambdaone•1h ago
We are lucky it's even a duopoly. All it would take is the demise of Firefox, and the entire web would be defined entirely by the implementation of Chrome/Chromium.

Servo is very welcome; a third leg to the stool makes real diversity possible again.

whizzter•1h ago
Ladybird seems to be progressing at an impressive pace also, time will tell however if their choice of C++ will be a big problem or if modern ways of doing things are safe enough.
throwaway48476•1h ago
They chose c++ because the web spec implies object oriented design.
IshKebab•1h ago
No they didn't. It's C++ because the primary author was most familiar with C++ and only allowed C++ in SerenityOS.

https://ladybird.org/#:~:text=The%20choice%20of%20language%2...

throwaway48476•1h ago
That was the answer I remember Andreas give in a update video to answer the "why not rust" question.
lawn•1h ago
They're announced they want to move to Swift to combat some of this.
tredre3•1h ago
Their choice is actually Swift and by the time there's a stable release all the C++ code is intended to have been replaced.

Time will tell if that will be a big problem or if more mainstream ways of doing things are better for a project intended to run everywhere!

norman784•30m ago
I remember they mentioning Swift a few months ago, but currently I don’t see any swift in their github repo, didn’t checked other branches besides main.
bastawhiz•1h ago
Don't forget that pretty much 100% of iOS users and a nontrivial percentage of Mac users are on Webkit/Safari. That's not to say Safari is really leading the pack on anything at all, but Google also hasn't led Apple by the nose on pretty much anything on the web in recent years.
jorvi•20m ago
Yup, the split is really Blink+WebKit. Firefox marketshare is tiny these days.

What's interesting is seeing a few non-Apple WebKit browsers pop up, like Orion (Kagi) and Epiphany.

Call me cynical, but I don't see Ladybird or Servo do much beyond making a splash. Browser engines take an incredible amount of dev hours to maintain. Ladybird is hot now, but what about in a decade? Hype doesn't last that long and at that point the money and a chunk of the dev interest will have dried up.

Blink and WebKit both have massive corporations championing them, so those engines do not run that risk.

The_Rob•1h ago
Firefox market share is so low, it really seems more like a Chrome and Safari duopoly.
smt88•57m ago
The duopoly is Chrome and Safari. Firefox barely registers, especially because all browsers on iOS are Safari.

Also, what's your issue with Firefox?

kelnos•48m ago
Firefox isn't a part of any duopoly, with market share numbers as low as they are these days. Chrome + Safari, perhaps? (Or Chrome + Edge if you exclude mobile, though Edge of course uses the same rendering engine as Chome.)
beardsciences•1h ago
Whether it's something like this, or ladybird's engine, I'm happy there is work being made in this space.
DerSaidin•45m ago
+1

Personally I'm more optimistic about Servo - because originating at Mozilla, I imagine more web browser experience and expertise went into its architecture, and also because Rust.

ricardobeat•30m ago
I don't know.. Servo has been in development for a decade and still has quite underwhelming performance and UX. The binary is 100MB+ on Mac, scrolling is janky, a google image search takes 10+ seconds to render and goes through very buggy states. Meanwhile Ladybird renders a legacy UI, but feels really fast and stable.
darkwater•1h ago
I'm so going to try this, and I hope it will end up as when I tried and used Phoenix, and then Firebird.
wduquette•1h ago
I'd like to see this succeed, but I'm skeptical that a small team can keep up with the major players in this area. Many years ago Dan Kennedy (of the SQLite team) wrote a lovely HTML widget for TCL/TK. It rendered CSS 1.0 quite nicely, and was a pleasure to use, modulo a few font-related bugs; but was soon rendered obsolete and out of date. Not blaming Dan, here; it simply wasn't a one-person job. Meanwhile, I'd rewritten an app to make use of it. Got burned once, don't want to get burned again.
nicoburns•1h ago
I feel like part of the solution here is to build the browser as reusable modular components. For some parts of browsers that's been common for years: JS engines (V8, SpiderMonkey, etc) are typically reusable, as are rendering backends (WebRender, Skia, etc), and lower-level components like Freetype/Harfbuzz/icu.

Servo's CSS engine Stylo is also modular, and is shared by Firefox which is part of how they've managed to not completely fall behind in web standards support despite the project being all but abandoned for several years.

I'm building another browser engine Blitz [0] which also uses Stylo, and we're building our layout/text engine in such a way that it can be reused so future browser engines (at least ones written in Rust) shouldn't need to build either Style or Layout if they don't want to.

A few more infrastructure pieces like this and browser engine development starts to look more approachable.

[0]: https://github.com/DioxusLabs/blitz

norman784•26m ago
Thanks for you hard work, I already saw taffy being used by other prominent projects like Cosmic desktop environment, bevy, etc
bryanlarsen•1h ago
It's several small teams. Servo is modular, and parts of it are useful outside of Servo. Other projects are using and maintaining and enhancing those modules. For example, IIRC dioxus uses many of the modules.

Edit: see sister comment by the actual Dioxus guy, which is more accurate than mine!

Yoric•1h ago
I seem to recall that MMM was based on this widget.

For context, MMM was a browser that supported both browser addons and sandboxed applets, around 1995.

robin_reala•1h ago
Ah nice, they’re finally generating native ARM Mac binaries.
esafak•1h ago
They just issued their first release, 0.0.1, after 50,000 commits. I've never seen that before.
samus•53m ago
It would be a pleasure to check out the open source web engine you have been a major contributor to :)
kelnos•44m ago
Version numbers don't really mean much, especially for a project that was initially supposed to just be a proving ground for new Firefox technologies, some of which are indeed used in Firefox today.

Only more recently has the plan emerged to release a full browser engine based on servo.

timvisee•18m ago
I'm seriously impressed on how far this has come. Tried a few websites in the experimental mode, it renders quite well.
amiljkovic•10m ago
Does it support kiosk mode or is it configurable to run “locked down” to a single page and full-screen?