I’m not sure that is a problem here given that as I understand it, natural proofs apply to circuit complexity approaches and they say the whole circuit complexity method has fundamental limitations which they describe thus:
The circuit complexity approach seeks to establish lower bounds by proving that NP problems require super-polynomial circuit sizes. While achieving success for restricted models such as monotone circuits, this approach has faced insurmountable barriers in establishing non-linear lower bounds for general circuits.
So they take an entirely different approach using category theory. It may have a similar limitation as the natural proof barrier (as far as I know), but as they dismiss the whole circuit idea and do something different I wouldn’t say them not mentioning the limitation of a specific type of circuit-based approach is that much of a problem.[1] assuming certain things which people generally believe to be true
Who writes Lean code in the actual paper but doesn't create a repo or even a username?
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Lean uses Curry-Howard correspondence, so how proofs work is you declare your propositions as types and then your proof is actually a recipe that goes from things that have already been established and finishes by instantiating that type. The guarantees there are very strong - if you succeed in instantiating the type you have definitely proved something. The question is whether you have proved the thing you said you have. So here scanning the proof (it’s like 100 pages and I am sick so definitely sub-par intellectually) they use category theory to embed the problem, so the proof is actually a proof of the properties of this embedding. So if there is a problem with the proof, my guess would be that it would lie in the embedding not being exactly representative of the problem somehow.
It seems a pretty serious attempt though- it’s not just some random crank paper.
rescrv•3h ago
I'm betting it was published in a hurry. I know I would hit "publish" within 24 hours of creating such a result, and would hope it would go wide. I'd publish to arxiv before getting clearance to release the code. I bet that's what happened here.
I appreciate your explanation of the Curry-Howard correspondance. I was familiar with it, but not with Lean in particular. I'd heard of Lean, but didn't know how it worked.
Thank you again!