While Relay worked well for me in React (though there was room for improvement), I needed a GraphQL client that feels natural with Svelte and/or SolidJS. So I decided to make one. You can learn more about the motivation in the docs.
I just released the first version and most things in the docs should work. Would love to hear your thoughts!
phryneas•3mo ago
If I may ask, are there any things that are currently missing in Apollo Client to be a good match for Svelte or SolidJS? If there are things we can improve, I'd be happy to know!
devunt•3mo ago
From my observation in the community, I think one challenge is that Apollo Client has a perception of being too enterprise-focused and heavy for beginners. This might make some developers hesitant to try it for smaller projects or when they're just starting with GraphQL.
phryneas•3mo ago
It's definitely not our intention to send that message - Apollo Client should be a good fit for everybody.
The biggest adoption hurdle I could think of is that we only offer a normalized cache. From what we're seeing everybody sooner or later has a good use for it, and switching from a non-cache solution to a normalized cache can cause a lot of pain when it's done too late, so we don't give people the "without" choice from the start.
That said, I've been looking at your docs, and you seem to make any kind of cache completely optional. That's a bold move the other direction ^^ I'll be keeping an eye out on how people start using that :)
Make sure to stop by the GraphQL Discord - most of the maintainers of the different cache libraries are over there and we're always up for a chat!
kaufmae•3mo ago
phryneas•3mo ago
I guess you're talking about [Safelisting Persisted Queries](https://www.apollographql.com/docs/graphos/platform/security...) here. Afaik, if you want to use the full integration with the GraphOS platform, you'll need an account with us. The feature is supported on the free account with a rate-limit, and if you would need more, you could go with the "developer" account, which we launched this summer, which is quite reasonably priced and comes with starting credits: https://www.apollographql.com/pricing
That said, Apollo Server is open source and at no point you are locked into our platform - it's just that our platform takes a lot of work away from you, allowing you to manage those whitelists easier. If you want to manage your whitelist yourself, it's totally doable - I just did a quick google search and have come up with more than a dozen articles describing various ways of doing it. Just be aware that there is a lot of coordination between builds and deployments going on, quickly leading to very complex setups - which is why we offer the platform integration in the first place.
So I think the idea was not to lock anyone out of these features, just create a quick pit of success by making the GraphOS integration really easy - but I can see where your feelings are coming from. I hope we can earn back your trust over time!