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The grim truth behind the Pied Piper (2020)

https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200902-the-grim-truth-behind-the-pied-piper
30•Anon84•2h ago

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bogzz•52m ago
Their CTO is a Satanist.
jack_tripper•45m ago
Nice chain Dinesh
wpasc•22m ago
not height per se, but d2f
bambax•28m ago
I too read the title and thought it would be about the show. It's not, unfortunately.
throw23748923•36m ago
What's the chance this event happened as recorded in popular memory? The inscription dates to 1284, but the earliest mention according to the article is 1384, 100 years later. On a symbolic day no less. The plaque, where 1284 is inscribed, is on a house dating to the 1500s.

It seems much more plausible that e.g. children emigrated as adults to another region (as mentioned in the article) and the old-timers who stayed behind lamented the 'loss of their children' so to speak; when the history was recorded in town records, it's unlikely that any of these old-timers or children were around. Hundreds of years of historical layering, where the most interesting version of the story is the one that is reinforced likely explains the mythological nature of the tale.

But what do I know? I suppose it is curious.

jvanderbot•11m ago
Combining all the elements, a foreigner-led emigration of adult / young adults en masse because of a rat/disease/sanitation problem seems just fine as an explanation.
DonHopkins•29m ago
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tetris11•27m ago
The Wikipedia article has actual information instead of the storytelling that the BBC article is insisting on

> Udolph favours the hypothesis that the Hamelin youths wound up in what is now Poland.[40] Genealogist Dick Eastman cited Udolph's research on Hamelin surnames that have shown up in Polish phonebooks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pied_Piper_of_Hamelin

Also, every town in Southern Germany looks like that. Hamelin is nothing special in that respect

flobosg•9m ago
Hamelin is located in Lower Saxony, not in the southern states.
b2ccb2•4m ago
"Hameln" is in northern Germany, don't know where the I comes from in the English transliteration.

There are many theories, one of them is the Children's Crusade[0], viral diseases, pagan sects, but yes, the leading on is the "Ostsiedlung".

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Crusade [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostsiedlung

willvarfar•25m ago
I'd always imagined the "pied piper" as being 'pied' as in patched or even checkerboard of black and white. A piebald pony is patches of black or white, for example.

Is it that 'pied' is or was less specific and can mean patches of any colour, or is it that the English name is a bit lost in translation?

dang•20m ago
Discussed at the time (of the article):

The grim truth behind the Pied Piper - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24450760 - Sept 2020 (23 comments)

iammjm•16m ago
So what? Like if something was posted years before should it never be posted ever again? We are talking 5 years here, and the information hasn’t become deprecated or outdated
CrazyStat•12m ago
People might be interested to see what was said last time.
ishouldbework•11m ago
I do not believe that is dang's point. He often posts comments like these under recurring posts, I assume in hope that the past discussions could also be of interest to the readers.

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