I'm curious, how did you find people that you can spend time with and do something that is not productive, that is just there to be fun, that is just there, that doesn't demand anything from you?

You're in a group where you are not accepted because you accomplished something big, but just because they like you, for being you, for being authentic, and where you just have your peers where you can go to and you just feel great.

And I'm wondering how to find that because the general advice is like, well, just go to some gym, or just go to a public place. But what they don't take into account is that in a public place, you do not communicate with people. You don't. First of all, you don't in general. So if you initiate contact, it's rather weird for them that you do because they don't know you and they are tremendously suspicious just because they don't know you, not because they have a real reason, just because they are conditioned that way.

And they are quickly asking basically, where's this leading to? What is the purpose of this conversation? When you say, well, I just want to talk a little, they say, okay, I'm not interested.

And they give you a weird look and they run away and they tell their friends, well, there was this weird guy that just wanted to communicate. What a weirdo.

So like all these suggestions, they are all about accomplishing something. So let's say for instance, you just wanted some person, not on the internet, but in real life, where you could just gossip. This basically describes it perfectly. Even though I'm not interested in gossiping itself, but I'm interested in being respected without having to do something for it as in have a certain degree or have written a book or any of that, but just being respected, being appreciated.

When I say something, they enjoy seeing me, they enjoy spending time with me. They just think that I'm a great person and they are respectful.

And this is just not happening. And that's the thing. It's just not happening in those places like in a gym, in my experience. And I don't think anyone has a different experience really. They are just bad places because especially a gym, especially even a FabLab or something like this, they are all places where you accomplish something.

Allegedly, they are there for communicating, for finding new friends, but go fuck yourself. You don't find new friends there. What you find is perfectionists who value you less if you are not a perfectionist yourself and you are only measured by what you accomplished.