This is what we want from the government - fuck off, and not get in the way. Sure, it has to tax us in order to keep the serfs from revolting, we understand this danger so are willing to chip in, but that's about it.
Like what? We're not copying the communist planned economy, nor will we ever facilitate a total autocracy. The West will never out-China the Chinese.
Animats•2mo ago
It's less specific than the Fourteenth Five Year Plan, which is just finishing up. That was the one which contained "Made in China 2025", calling out specific industries that needed to catch up. Most of those goals were achieved. The fifteenth plan has less of that. It calls for a consolidation phase.
There's much political boilerplate, but read carefully and you'll see specific goals called out. Note policy on Taiwan, and on Hong Kong and Macao. The Taiwan plan seems to be to use soft power to tie Taiwan closer to the mainland.
China has a social security problem as the population ages, and there's quite a bit on that.
"We should implement a system for collective wage bargaining" - that's a surprise. I doubt they meant labor unions. Any comments on that?
"Young scientists and engineers should receive support to pursue innovation or start their businesses." - venture capital with a socialist touch?
The various ministries and provincial governments will now turn out specific goals consistent with the five-year plan. That's when the specifics appear.
SilverElfin•2mo ago
Animats•2mo ago
There's the "lying flat" movement, where young people just give up the rat race and move to some low-cost place.
toomuchtodo•2mo ago
The True Cost of China's Falling Prices - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45876691 - November 2025
It appears that there is simply never going to be enough domestic demand for supply capacity, and China needs to lean into its export play where ever possible to the global market to soak up domestic production capacity until natural decline due to structural demographics.
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/americas-self-d...
> In 1995, China accounted for less than five percent of global manufacturing output. By 2010, that number had jumped to around a quarter, and today it stands at nearly a third.