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Ask HN: How hard will it be to find a job (dev) in 5 years from now?

3•RomanPushkin•2h ago

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verdverm•2h ago
this is far too open ended and too far into the future for anyone to give a response that is not deeply speculative
test123654789•2h ago
Probably not that hard.
jimbo808•1h ago
Nobody can predict the future about this sort of thing with any kind of accuracy, but I'll throw my guess out there anyway. For reference, I'm a software engineer with 12 years of experience at a few companies big and small.

The AI bubble will have burst, and the market will have started to heal from the AI enshittification in some areas but still be grappling with it in others. The "you must use AI" mandates will start to get outnumbered by "you may not use AI" mandates. AI will have gotten only a little better (mostly just better tooling and cheaper operating costs, but it will be more expensive), still nowhere near being able to replace actual humans doing skilled technical work. LLMs will have found product market fit in the NSFW market and in the online scammer market.

There will be a glut of senior engineers and a resurgence in demand for developers for a few reasons:

- The juniors who fail to find jobs now, will go into other professons and will not become senior engineers.

- AI slop will have creeped into, and caused mayhem in, many large and important codebases, and it will have introduced some major security vulnerabilities which will have produced at least a few major news events. Companies will be forced to hire senior engineers to deal with this slop and the massive technical debt that was created by LLMs.

The increased demand for senior engineers will likely be met largely by further mass importing of H1Bs, and outsourcing, not as much domestic hiring. Many kids from the generation of CS majors who are graduating now (the ones everyone told to "learn to code" for their whole childhood) will have failed to find employment in software engineering jobs, "because of AI," (the other "AI," iykyk). They will blame this on Americans not being willing to study STEM, being too lazy, etc. They will conveniently forget how Americans did study STEM, they did learn to code, and when they graduated, they were met with a job market that was shit because the AI grifters duped business guys into not investing in the next generation.

The generation coming up behind them has been told that all jobs will be eradicated by the time they graduate, so yeah, you can imagine what that's doing to the minds of our kids.

jjgreen•1h ago
Or one could be pessimistic, AI code remains shite but "good enough" to employ former devs as dehallucination operatives, grinding through and fixing up code which no-one understands as best they can for just enough money to keep scurvy at bay.
adamredwoods•12m ago
I think the bar will raise a little. I want to see a little more from new hire devs that are beyond coding exercises, because Copilot has solved most of those.

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