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Why is real-world ASR still ~85% when lab models claim >95%?

3•DoubleThing•2mo ago
Curious to hear what approaches people are taking, what the bottlenecks are, and whether anyone here is pushing toward the goal of "AI that understands you, the first time."

I've been diving into the gap between benchmark ASR performance and real-world speech. Models like Whisper and Deepgram show impressive >95% accuracy in ideal conditions. But in the wild — accents, noisy environments, emotional speech, code-switching, overlapping speakers — accuracy often drops sharply, often to the mid-80s or worse.

This matters because the next wave of AI won't be chatbots; it will be hands-free, real-time systems in contexts like:

- care work (voice logs) - crisis communication - home healthcare - security rounds - field operations - "I need help" micro-interactions

In these high-stakes contexts, 85% accuracy means critical information gets lost.

What seems missing today:

- Fine-tuning pipelines for noisy, accented speech - Reinforcement learning loops (user corrections → model improvements) - Fast per-speaker adaptation - Better handling of disfluencies ("uh," "um," repairs) - Scaling-law insights applied to ASR models - Evaluation metrics that reflect real environments instead of curated datasets

What I'm trying to understand:

- What prevents ASR from reaching reliable >99% accuracy in real-world conditions? - Is the bottleneck the model architecture, data quality, or something else?

Would love to hear from anyone who has:

- Worked on Whisper fine-tuning - Tackled multilingual or accented ASR - Shipped speech systems in noisy environments - Developed conversational (not dictation) ASR models - Built correction-feedback training loops - Deployed ASR in safety-critical or field environments

What worked? What failed? What surprised you?

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