That's called theft when translated from European Newspeak.
saubeidl•1mo ago
Don't leave your money with the people you're starting an illegal war of aggression against.
That's called being an idiot in European realpolitik.
drysine•1mo ago
I don't remember Russian reserves being stored in the Ukraine.
saubeidl•1mo ago
I suppose Russians don't understand the concept of alliances.
drysine•1mo ago
Oh, we do. I just don't see European men dying in the Ukraine.
saubeidl•1mo ago
Like it or not, Ukraine is European. Ukrajinci su naši.
Why a country with a GDP smaller than Italy decided to mess with a super power, I don't know. But don't whine when you get your nose bloodied.
drysine•1mo ago
>Ukrajinci su naši
No, Ukrainians are not nazi. The Kiev regime makes heroes out of Ukrainian nazi, both historical figures and present day ones, but you shouldn't generalize that to the whole population.
saubeidl•1mo ago
naši means ours, my slavic brethren.
drysine•1mo ago
Ustaše[0] are not my brothers, but I see how you can sympathize with the regime that glorifies banderovtsy[1].
"Jewish and Serb organizations, Croat historians and antifascists, as well as international observers, have repeatedly warned of revisionism in Croatia, which seeks to minimize Ustaše crimes and even celebrates the Ustaše regime. Recent examples include the publication of a book celebrating "the Croatian knight" Maks Luburić, who as head of Ustaše concentration camps was responsible for over 100,000 deaths, during Ustaše genocides against Jews, Serbs and Roma, and a documentary minimizing children's deaths in Ustaše concentration camps." [2]
In the Ukraine they translate and publish[3] memoirs of Nate Pavelich.[4]
"The report, compiled by two thinktanks, the New Lines Institute in Washington and the Raoul Wallenberg Centre for Human Rights in Montreal, found that there were “reasonable grounds to conclude” that Russia is already in breach of two articles of the 1948 Genocide Convention, by publicly inciting genocide, and by the forcible transfer of Ukrainian children to Russia, which the report notes is itself a genocidal act under article II of the convention."
So the reports says that Putin committed genocide by evacuating orphans from the war zone and saying that Russians and Ukrainians are the same people. Okey.
And that you equate with intentional murder of hundreds of thousands of people of undesired ethnicities by Pavelic?
saubeidl•1mo ago
I did not write the Genocide Convention, nor am I an expert to judge whether it applies or not.
The experts, however, say it does.
To call stealing kids from their parents "evacuating orphans" shows you, too, are supportive of genocide.
drysine•1mo ago
So the "experts" tell you that calling Russians and the Ukrainian the same people is genocide, and you think "Hmm, they must be right, they are experts. It's the same as saying that Jews are subhuman".
>To call stealing kids from their parents "evacuating orphans" shows you, too, are supportive of genocide.
It's a stale propaganda trope.
When asked for the list of children, Ukrainian regime managed to produce a list with only 339 names and not too convincing explanation of this hundredfold reduction compared to previous claims.
"When asked why Kyiv didn’t present a more extensive list, given that 339 names are less than 2% of the total number of forcefully taken children, Euronews sources explained it was a decision based on previous experience.
“There is a risk that Moscow would try to buy time claiming it takes longer to check the names, while trying to change the identities of Ukrainian children further, making it impossible to track,” the source said." [0]
What's your beef with Nazis? Don't you enjoy foreign invasions and genocide, bombs falling from the sky as the master race marches forward?
belter•1mo ago
Its called War Reparations when you are not paid in Rubles...
drysine•1mo ago
I don't think being paid in rubles is the necessary condition for knowing international law.
"War reparations are compensation payments made after a war by one side to the other. They are intended to cover damage or injury inflicted during a war. War reparations can take the form of hard currency, precious metals, natural resources, industrial assets, or intellectual properties. Loss of territory in a peace settlement is usually considered to be distinct from war reparations.
War reparations are often governed by treaties which belligerent parties negotiate as part of a peace settlement. Payment of reparations often occur as part of a condition to remove occupying troops or under the threat of re-occupation. The legal basis for war reparations in modern international law is Article 3 of the Hague Convention of 1907.[0]
drysine•1mo ago
That's called theft when translated from European Newspeak.
saubeidl•1mo ago
That's called being an idiot in European realpolitik.
drysine•1mo ago
saubeidl•1mo ago
drysine•1mo ago
saubeidl•1mo ago
Why a country with a GDP smaller than Italy decided to mess with a super power, I don't know. But don't whine when you get your nose bloodied.
drysine•1mo ago
No, Ukrainians are not nazi. The Kiev regime makes heroes out of Ukrainian nazi, both historical figures and present day ones, but you shouldn't generalize that to the whole population.
saubeidl•1mo ago
drysine•1mo ago
"Jewish and Serb organizations, Croat historians and antifascists, as well as international observers, have repeatedly warned of revisionism in Croatia, which seeks to minimize Ustaše crimes and even celebrates the Ustaše regime. Recent examples include the publication of a book celebrating "the Croatian knight" Maks Luburić, who as head of Ustaše concentration camps was responsible for over 100,000 deaths, during Ustaše genocides against Jews, Serbs and Roma, and a documentary minimizing children's deaths in Ustaše concentration camps." [2]
In the Ukraine they translate and publish[3] memoirs of Nate Pavelich.[4]
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usta%C5%A1e
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banderite
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usta%C5%A1e#Modern-day_Croatia
[3] https://book-ye.com.ua/authors/ante-pavelich/
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ante_Paveli%C4%87#Genocide
saubeidl•1mo ago
Ante Pavelic was the Putin of the 20th century.
drysine•1mo ago
On that we can agree.
>Ante Pavelic was the Putin of the 20th century.
Pavelic organized genocide, they are not the same.
saubeidl•1mo ago
So did Putin.
drysine•1mo ago
"The report, compiled by two thinktanks, the New Lines Institute in Washington and the Raoul Wallenberg Centre for Human Rights in Montreal, found that there were “reasonable grounds to conclude” that Russia is already in breach of two articles of the 1948 Genocide Convention, by publicly inciting genocide, and by the forcible transfer of Ukrainian children to Russia, which the report notes is itself a genocidal act under article II of the convention."
So the reports says that Putin committed genocide by evacuating orphans from the war zone and saying that Russians and Ukrainians are the same people. Okey.
And that you equate with intentional murder of hundreds of thousands of people of undesired ethnicities by Pavelic?
saubeidl•1mo ago
The experts, however, say it does.
To call stealing kids from their parents "evacuating orphans" shows you, too, are supportive of genocide.
drysine•1mo ago
>To call stealing kids from their parents "evacuating orphans" shows you, too, are supportive of genocide.
It's a stale propaganda trope.
When asked for the list of children, Ukrainian regime managed to produce a list with only 339 names and not too convincing explanation of this hundredfold reduction compared to previous claims.
"When asked why Kyiv didn’t present a more extensive list, given that 339 names are less than 2% of the total number of forcefully taken children, Euronews sources explained it was a decision based on previous experience.
“There is a risk that Moscow would try to buy time claiming it takes longer to check the names, while trying to change the identities of Ukrainian children further, making it impossible to track,” the source said." [0]
[0] https://www.euronews.com/2025/06/04/ukraine-demands-return-o...
mopsi•1mo ago
belter•1mo ago
drysine•1mo ago
"War reparations are compensation payments made after a war by one side to the other. They are intended to cover damage or injury inflicted during a war. War reparations can take the form of hard currency, precious metals, natural resources, industrial assets, or intellectual properties. Loss of territory in a peace settlement is usually considered to be distinct from war reparations.
War reparations are often governed by treaties which belligerent parties negotiate as part of a peace settlement. Payment of reparations often occur as part of a condition to remove occupying troops or under the threat of re-occupation. The legal basis for war reparations in modern international law is Article 3 of the Hague Convention of 1907.[0]
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_reparations