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Rivian Will Add Lidar in 2026, Says Tesla's Cameras Aren't Enough

https://www.thedrive.com/news/rivian-will-add-lidar-in-2026-says-teslas-cameras-arent-enough
11•belter•1h ago

Comments

ChrisArchitect•1h ago
[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46234920
belter•1h ago
Different article on the same subject.

Maybe focus on these:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46291500

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46291156

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46291414

chokolad•1h ago
how on earth 3 links to Github actions price increases are relevant here ?
belter•1h ago
Try harder...
ChrisArchitect•1h ago
'Different article' from the 11th, Same discussion.
inkspotch•1h ago
Cameras can do it, but more instruments are better. Planes use more than the eyes of the pilot.
DaveZale•1h ago
Sadly, Morgan Stanley suggests that the release of this information may result in invoking the "Osbourne Effect." Osbourne Computer, decades ago, released information about a great new future model. This resulted in customers refraining from buying the current Osbourne model, resulting in steep losses and bankruptcy. Not to say bankruptcy will happen to Rivian, but many customers may refrain from buying the current R1 model, and instead opt for the future R2 model, which may result in a bad quarter or two for Rivian. FWIW. Rivian seems to have amazing technology in the works, but investors may be in for a bumpy ride until a successful R2 rollout ... according to Morgan Stanley (which may be conflicted by their business with Tesla).
belter•1h ago
>>Morgan Stanley suggests that the release of this information may result in invoking the "Osbourne Effect." Osbourne Computer, decades ago, released information about a great new future model. This resulted in customers refraining from buying the current Osbourne model, resulting in steep losses and bankruptcy.

Sadly that did not work for Tesla, and the promises of FSD next year...for the last 10 years...

hollasch•1h ago
FSD is a software feature, planned for support on existing hardware. Over-the-air hardware updates are not so easy.
belter•1h ago
Those were claims already dismissed:

"Tesla (TSLA) has to replace computer in ~4 million cars or compensate their owners" - https://electrek.co/2025/04/14/tesla-tsla-replace-computer-4...

thejazzman•11m ago
It’s literally called the FSD computer and the software is called “supervised”. So if anything they’re directly claiming it’s a hardware accomplishment while the software is lesser
BugsJustFindMe•1h ago
Cameras could do it if:

* they were positioned for stereopsis like the human visual system

* had 6 degrees of motion freedom like the human visual system

* were hyper-adaptive to lighting conditions like the human visual system

* had a significantly higher density of pixels per degree of arc in the focus region like the human visual system

* and were backed by a system capable of intuiting object inertia like the human visual system.

Tesla does none of those.

SirMaster•43m ago
Even if cameras can do it, it feels wrong to not use tech that can do it better that vision alone. Even if it costs more, it should still be used because these are machines that can kill people, and life is too valuable. If it can't be done the best we can, then maybe it shouldn't be done at all yet.
thejazzman•13m ago
Some people live in brick houses and others in trailers or worse. It’s just not how the reality of the world works. The reality is we’re lucky to even have the luxury of a warm trailer relative to the chaos and pain of nature.

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