So the inequality of income of poor white people and rich white people has the same causes as for poor vs. rich black people.
Am I understanding it correctly?
just realize that poster is more than a century old and it will probably still be being explained a hundred years from now.
Something about convincing the lowest white person that they're better than the best black guy.
I don't see that ploy failing to work in the US for a long, long time. So maybe the elites will lose control and thus, the "war"? But I doubt it.
"To keep a black guy down in the gutter, you need a white guy there with him"
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lbj-convince-the-lowest-wh...
We seem to love creating stories about why so-and-so is rich, but, I suspect the most common answer is “time, patience, and no major bad luck”.
Teaching the next generation(s) about how to invest (in self and in markets), not spend time nor money to frivolous excess, and delaying gratification are other critical parts of sustainability of family wealth. I think those were as big a factor as any other in the 5 generations from my kids back to their great-great-grandparents.
The values you mention are timeless & should be taught to all.
Hopefully technology continues to be a thing that rises all boats & that more people can get said boat.
I fear the current tax laws, political contributions & financial regulations favor those with more wealth so much that when you factor in compounding, their wealth will continue to grow at extreme levels compared to those with less wealth. Retail needs to start pulling their money out of stocks until large companies reduce executive pay to reasonable levels. Otherwise we just blindly keep supporting this current chaos. I believe we also need to start taxing margin loans, instead of going down a wealth tax road.
Agreed, with the related note that I think that facts/knowledge can be taught by strangers, but values must be taught by family or another tight community structure (church, respected elders, or similar). Schools can prattle on all they want about delayed gratification and it won’t move the needle.
That means an inflation adjusted doubling every 12 year.
It also means that if you manage to live on e.g 1% of the wealth annually, your wealth will double(inflation adjusted) every 15 year.
So yeah, as long as you don't get too many children (branching factor not more than 4) you 'just' need to get filthy rich, and none of your descendants ever need working.
Start with $100 and compound it at 10% per year for 30 years and you end up with about $1,700. Improve that return by just 1% to 11% and after the same 30 years you have about $2,300.
That small 1% edge produces roughly 35% more money in the end. Compounding is extremely powerful, and even marginally better money management leads to vastly better outcomes over time.
Stop whining.
Building a shack with nothing but bamboo and no paperwork in US is illegal almost everywhere, transporting kids this way would get you pulled over, and you spend a fortune to get healthcare to the point of getting Phillipines tier healthcare.
Nominally we're richer, with the freedom to have cops bring violence to us if we're not and we try to keep our unpermitted urban shack. It feels like you have to earn a fortune in the USA to do the things poor countries almost take for granted.
i_am_a_peasant•3h ago
The bar that you get to grow up in a relatively safe place, with non toxic friends or parents is quite high already. I haven’t been lucky to have grown up in a safe place or in a good family, but I did manage to make good friends, and if I had not been lucky enough to have positive experiences with some real smart resourceful people, I probably wouldn’t had been alive today. Not to sound too dramatic.
Every time I visited the US it was mostly to visit people who were in a very privileged position. They either rented an expensive apartment in new york city in an ok neighborhood, or they owned a 3 story house in the suburbs. When we drove to walmart I could already see in the parking lots the stark differences between people who called this country home.
Next to us parked a family, 3 kids, a car that looked like it was falling apart next to my friend’s huge modern SUV. I wonder if any of them will ever br able to afford an SUV, I wonder how many of them will be able to go to college. The father and mother were yelling a lot at those poor kids. Everyone looked overweight(no offense), the father literally obese. And we went on with our day. I bought a bunch of random stuff I didn’t really need and ate a lobster sandwich. And I kind of forgot for a long time that family ever existed, except for the couple of times I randomly remember them. Hope they’re alright.
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AnotherGoodName•2h ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_pe...
Sort by median and compare to average wealth to see the issue the USA has right now. The USA's median wealth in 2007 was $173,151 in inflation adjusted teams for some reference, it dropped in 2008 and never really recovered. It's now well below many other Western nations.
hinoki•1h ago
I found this nice visualisation: https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/dataviz/dfa/distr...
But it’s totals, and not inflation adjusted.
AnotherGoodName•1h ago
It's inflation adjusted to 2022 though, not 2025 (hopefully at least that's still in ballpark though). There was a slight spike upwards for median wealth during the pandemic fwiw. This seems to have entirely corrected though.
something98•1h ago
See the "CPI-Adjusted to 2022" column https://dqydj.com/net-worth-by-year/
AnotherGoodName•1h ago
I guess the stimulus checks and stock market movements during the pandemic brought the median and average closer together for a year? Regardless it didn't hold, it's back below 2007's level again today by any measure.
stevenwoo•1h ago
jsolson•1h ago
I cannot help but think of https://youtu.be/Pj-D0jc17D0?si=BiEGWr9aacGdAkGW
sokoloff•1h ago
I read the post as involving seeing the other family at Walmart, but the buying of things not needed and consumption of lobster as happening elsewhere.
rayiner•1h ago
If you compare income mobility between parents and adult children in the U.S. versus Denmark, it looks quite similar for the top 80%. https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012.... Someone raised in the second lowest income quantile in the U.S. has about the same chance of ending up in the top income quantile as someone in Denmark. It’s the bottom 20% where Americans are twice as likely to get stuck there in comparison to people in Denmark.
PaulHoule•14m ago
The word "privilege" and especially the phrase "white privilege" is at the top of that list.
There really are some privileged individuals who are entitled and could use some bringing down but if you're speaking to a group you really don't where people are coming and frequently when I talk to an individual I find my expectations about their history and point of view are completely wrong. In particular I know a lot of white people who have black problems including the meaningless-but-fatal confrontations with the police. For the most part [1] black people are more concerned about racism in America than white people, but know many black people who resent the idea that they are first-and-foremost descendants of slaves and victims of racism and it's such a strongly held feeling for some that if you give them a choice of a strident "anti-racist" and a flagrant racist they'll pick the latter.
[1] I've met exceptions!
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