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CloudFlare is ruining the internet (for me)

https://www.slashgeek.net/2016/05/17/cloudflare-is-ruining-the-internet-for-me/
36•nomilk•1h ago

Comments

binaryturtle•1h ago
I fully agree. It's not only the waste of time when you have to confirm you're a human (that adds up to multiple hours per month).

It's also the entire blockage of older or less mainstream systems that no longer can access, sometimes critical, websites at all when the Cloudflare check blocks things entirely because the "browser is out of date" or not on their whitelist. Therefore causing excessive discrimination of poorer folks that can't afford upgrading to never/ other systems that still are legible to pass Cloudflare's "grace".

inferiorhuman•30m ago
Without a market CloudFlare wouldn't be able to ruin the internet. You can thank all of the incessant AI bots for that. I can't even browse GitHub anymore without logging in.
azalemeth•12m ago
What are the symptoms of being shadowbanned? I see an awful lot of "click here to prove you are human" boxes, click then, the page reloads, and I'm left with the captcha again. It's been very very frustrating.
ErroneousBosh•53m ago
What, because it keeps breaking?
esperent•46m ago
This article is from 2016, and it should be noted that things have significantly increased since then. I no longer have to click traffic lights and motorcycles, I just have to wait a few seconds. I'm in Vietnam so my IP gets flagged for checks a lot, but they all pass automatically in a few seconds.

The only time I still get asked to click motorcycles is not Cloudflare, it's Google. They absolutely hate when you try to do a search in an incognito window and will give you an unpassable captcha until you give up and use DDG instead.

nomilk•27m ago
Today I looked up a word definition on tfd.com (usually a lightning-fast website), it took 3 cloudflare screens each 10 seconds to load. Why?. Because I'm in South East Asia? I aborted mission and pasted the word in a search engine and had a definition in <5 seconds. Sad to see some of my favourite sites becoming unusable.

The shorter the average interaction with the site, the worse the burden cloudflare becomes. E.g. looking up a definition is usually a 5-10 second job, Cloudflare can make it take almost an order of magnitude longer.

In defence of motorcylces and traffic lights, those captchas are annoying too, but they do help humanity in a tiny, tiny way. By contrast, watching a cloudflare loading spinner is stupefyingly useless.

(apologies for ranting. I find it disproportionately irritating even though it's only a few minutes per day, possibly due to the sheer repetition involved).

tpdly•23m ago
Woah, yeah just tried tfd.com and got 10 CF redirects, still not loading.
nosianu•8m ago
From Germany: Two redirects, one for tfd.com, one for the redirected www.thefreedictionary.com. That's the choice -- and fault -- of the domain and webserver owners to have this full redirect instead of serving from the short domain directly.
lysace•44m ago
(The author runs a small ISP in an unspecified country in SEA and complains about many CF captchas.)

This may be one reason:

https://blog.cloudflare.com/ddos-threat-report-2025-q3/

Top 10 largest sources of DDoS attacks: 2025 Q3

1. Indonesia

2. Thailand

3. Bangladesh

Vietnam and Singapore also make it into the top 10. The latter is a bit of an outlier being rich and having a small population.

darkwater•39m ago
So, guilty by default, right? We developed human rights and laws through centuries of debates, pain, suffer, revolutions, fights etc just to get mega-corps doing whatever they feel right, externalizing the trade-offs on innocent peoples.
lysace•27m ago
No, just pointing out that it's relatively likely that their ISP's IP ranges have been flagged as DDoS sources.
andyjohnson0•25m ago
So what's to be done? Some people are being adversely (and probably unfairly, maybe even unjustly) affected by the actions of people that they share a geographic location with. I'm not convinced that many people desire that, but nobody much wants systematic disruption to a shared resource that has (perhaps regrettably) become economically and socially important, either. And, at its basic level, the net is geography: wires and data centres and peering points, as well as national laws, companies, agreements, etc.

What's the better solution? I certainly don't know.

Alex2037•58s ago
>So what's to be done?

using a less retarded system, perhaps? forcing a max difficulty recaptcha upon the first (!!!) request from client_IP to server_IP in hours/days/ever makes no fucking sense whatsoever.

Cloudflare is a piece of shit, and people only use it because it's free.

goodpoint•33m ago
it's ruining the internet for everybody else
blell•31m ago
Firewalling the third world off is a feature, not a bug.

Spam, antisocial behaviour, DDoS…

pektezol•24m ago
And this never happens in the first world.

Yeah, right.

kees99•3m ago
This (just firewall location X, and be done with it) isn't a particularly useful way of thinking.

I've got my own reality check on this just few days ago, when I did a manual review of spam/scan/other garbage hitting my server, and it turned out half of it comes from an interesting subset of IPs: registered in UK, US, Belarus, Seychells, etc. and yet according to ping latency and BGP data, most of those IPs are hosted in my home country (Nethernalds).

"IP location" was never an easy task, and it got way worse in recent years.

Network operators declaring intentionally fake location is so mainstream now that majority VPN providers use that (search for "virtual location").

ehhthing•30m ago
OP didn’t put this in the title but the article is from 2016. Turns out a lot has changed in the last decade and I think it’s likely that the article should be updated on what it’s like right now.
bhattisatish•20m ago
Oh this is still very true! I am from Banglaore, India. There are sites that outright block me. And in a day, I at least encounter 20-25 times where I need to click on "human checkbox" due to my region or IP. In mobile it's worse. All sites that have "strict" mode on, will either block or show the "human checkbox".

Even sites that I manage with Cloudflare, I see the same. Even if I use relaxed mode on, If I visit the site via mobile, it can trigger the Cloudflare human validation.

nevon•27m ago
I have almost the same experience. I'm not running my own ISP and I'm not in a country known for originating DDoS attacks (Sweden), yet just using Firefox on Linux seems to be enough to be forced to click on traffic lights many times an hour. If I'm using Mullvad VPN that accelerates to almost every minute. CloudFlare claims to support privacy pass, but their extension implementing it seems to do absolutely nothing.
carlosjobim•19m ago
What is a better option for website owners? We don't want to keep people out, we want to keep attackers out.

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