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Ask HN: How do people validate deep self-study in math or CS?

2•_willhf•2h ago
I recently decided I wanted to better understand modern cryptography and zero-knowledge proofs. Although I took mathematics courses in college, that was years ago, so I began working through an undergraduate abstract algebra textbook on my own, reading and solving problems most evenings.

I made progress, but found it difficult to stay motivated without a clear external benchmark. I kept wishing there were a standardized, rigorous abstract algebra examination I could register for in advance. Something that would motivate sustained study and provide an objective measure of understanding, much like signing up for a marathon months ahead of time.

As far as I can tell, exams like this largely do not exist outside formal degree programs. That raised a question for me: why not? Would there be value in a small set of written subject matter exams, for example linear algebra, abstract algebra, or algorithms, designed to assess depth of understanding rather than speed or memorization?

I have heard and investigated the common answers, such as GRE subject tests, MOOCs, certifications, and "just build things," but none of those felt quite like what I was looking for. I may be missing something.

I am trying to understand whether this idea is fundamentally flawed, impractical, or simply undesirable. I would appreciate thoughtful feedback. Thanks.

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mamonster•2h ago
Just look at qualifying exams for some PhD program in the relevant area.

For example, if we take abstract algebra (I assume you mean rings, groups and fields), I found this

https://www.math.kent.edu/~white/qual/

I had a look at for example the Aug19 one, 80% of the problems are doable for a 3rd year Bachelor student and close to what you would see in a term exam for the topic (except for the Galois stuff because AFAIK Galois theory is a separate optional course in most undergrad degrees).

_willhf•1h ago
Thanks for the reply. That looks like a great resource, and I’ll check it out.

What I was missing is the verification aspect. Someone can work through old quals on their own, but there’s no standard way to demonstrate to a third party that they actually met a particular bar, short of enrolling in a program. I’m curious whether people see that gap as something that matters, or whether it’s simply not something most people care about.

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