If they can just get down to 0 sales then costs will drop significantly, that should really boost the stock price.

TSLA going pre-revenue.

And everything they've announced has come to pass before...

Based on Tesla's stock price and P/E ratio, it would seem most people do believe what you're suggesting, right?

But I am curious what the end-to-end math looks like for all costs incurred in Cybercab rideshare services, maintenance, insurance, repairs, and so forth, and how that calculates out per mile. And of course the volume of rideshares, given the tepid pace most Tesla announcements come to fruition and scale.

The Model 3 / Y scaled better than many predicted, but since then, other promises have gone the other way.

I don't think you quite realize that Cybercab is a long, long way from scaling into a profitable business.

Safety and remote drivers are a huge barrier to achieving this. As is legal liability for accidents. Uber sidesteps this issue completely since it is the driver's responsibility.

Word is that Robotaxi is crashing at a higher rate than human drivers in Austin --- even with safety drivers.

https://www.technology.org/2025/11/03/teslas-robotaxi-fleet-...

so we should expect to see it by 2065?

I'm not sure how much of "the stock market" TSLA makes up, but at current valuation, it makes up 1.9% of VTI (so that's a good estimation). So it could blink out of existence and only take VTI down 2%. (2% is significant of course.) But more likely might be a slow erosion while other components grow, making index funds and "the entire stock market" quite resilient to such a shock.

you wrote TSLA and reality in the same sentence :)

people keep forgetting that TSLA is not a car company! they are AI and humanoid and robots and … company and as such worth 100x current eval :)