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Open in hackernews

I analyzed 159 viral HN posts – negative sentiment outperforms positive 2:1

1•JoseOSAF•21h ago
I scraped 1,576 HN snapshots and found 159 stories that hit the maximum score. Then I crawled the actual articles and ran sentiment analysis.

The results surprised me.

*The Numbers*

- Negative sentiment: 78 articles (49%) - Positive sentiment: 45 articles (28%) - Neutral: 36 articles (23%)

Negative content doesn't just perform well – it dominates.

*What "Negative" Actually Means*

The viral negative posts weren't toxic or mean. They were:

- Exposing problems ("Why I mass-deleted my Chrome extensions") - Challenging giants ("OpenAI's real business model") - Honest failures ("I wasted 3 years building the wrong thing") - Uncomfortable truths ("Your SaaS metrics are lying to you")

The pattern: something is broken and here's proof.

*Title Patterns That Worked*

From the 159 viral posts, these structures appeared repeatedly:

1. [Authority] says [Controversial Thing] - 23 posts 2. Why [Common Belief] is Wrong - 19 posts 3. I [Did Thing] and [Unexpected Result] - 31 posts 4. [Company] is [Doing Bad Thing] - 18 posts

Average title length: 8.3 words. The sweet spot is 6-12 words.

*What Didn't Work*

Almost none of the viral posts were: - Pure product launches - "I'm excited to announce..." - Listicles ("10 ways to...") - Generic advice

*The Uncomfortable Implication*

If you want reach on HN, you're better off writing about what's broken than what you built.

This isn't cynicism – it's selection pressure. HN readers are skeptics. They've seen every pitch. What cuts through is useful criticism backed by evidence.

*For Founders*

Before your next launch post, ask: what problem am I exposing? What assumption am I challenging? What did I learn the hard way?

That's your hook.

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Data: Built a tool that snapshots HN/GitHub/Reddit/ProductHunt every 30 minutes. Analyzed 1,576 snapshots, found 2,984 instances of score=100, deduped to 159 unique URLs, crawled 143 successfully, ran GPT-4 sentiment analysis on full article text.

Happy to share the raw data if anyone wants to dig deeper.

Comments

SamInTheShell•21h ago
Not surprised at all. Rage bait has been leading to clicks since before the dawn of AOL.

About that data though, just publish that. Throw the data and tooling up on github or huggingface if it's a massive dataset. Would be interested in comparing methodologies for deriving sentiment.

JoseOSAF•20h ago
Here's the raw dataset: https://asof.app/static/hn_viral_dataset.json

159 stories that hit score 100 in my tracking, with HN points, comments, and first-seen timestamp.

Methodology: - Snapshots every 30 minutes (1,576 total) - Filtered to score=100 (my tracking cap) - Deduped by URL, kept first occurrence - Date range: Dec 2025 - Jan 2026

For sentiment, I ran GPT-4 on the full article text with a simple positive/negative/neutral classification. Not perfect but consistent enough to see the 2:1 pattern.

SamInTheShell•8h ago
Thought about this during the morning. I'm run the posts through ministral3:3b, mistral-small3.2:24b, and gpt-oss:20b this weekend to build a sentiment mapping and see what I get. I'm optimistic about ministral3:3b, but the other two are pretty good at this type of stuff.
JoseOSAF•1h ago
Interesting, would love to see the results. I'll be checking back here if you care to share them.
SamInTheShell•38m ago
Yeah, I plan to do a follow up comment with data and results.
damnitbuilds•20h ago
If people don't like something, I think the motivation to act is more than if they do like something or are neutral. Human nature.

People will downvote a headline with positive comments on something they don't like.

But what do they do with a negative headline about something they don't like ? I guess they will upvote it to show they also don't like it.

So negative wins.

"ran GPT-4 sentiment analysis on full article text." I think most people vote based on headlines, not on article text.

JoseOSAF•20h ago
You're right that most voting is headline-driven - that's definitely a limitation worth calling out.

I went with full article text because I wanted to capture what the content actually delivers, not just what the headline promises. A clickbait negative headline with a balanced article would skew results if I only looked at titles.

That said, you've got me thinking. It would be interesting to run sentiment on headlines separately and compare. If headline sentiment correlates strongly with article sentiment, your point stands. If they diverge, there might be something interesting about the gap between promise and delivery.

Might be a good follow-up analysis. Thanks for pushing on this.

farthertime•19h ago
It’s unfortunate that you came up with these stats and then didn’t use that info to tune the title for this post.
JoseOSAF•19h ago
Lol fair. I chickened out on the rage-bait title because it felt too meta.

If this dies in /new, at least I proved my own point.

ChrisArchitect•13h ago
Related:

65% of Hacker News posts have negative sentiment, and they outperform

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46512881