I agree that communities should try to protect themselves from malicious actors.
But the part about FOSS being used in a project not aligned with the creator's values seams hypocritical:
IMO FOOS is a gift to humanity and as such:
"A gift should be given freely, without obligation or expectation, as a true expression of love and kindness"
poszlem•33m ago
I think this mixes up the 'how' with the 'why.' FOSS isn't the end in itself, I think that for most people it's just the tool that lets us work together, share what we've built, and get something back from the community.
If this is suddenly being weaponised against us, I don't see how that's not a problem.
breezykoi•1m ago
For a lot of people, FOSS is also very much the why. It’s not just a practical tool—it represents core principles like freedom, transparency, and collaboration. Those values are the reason many contribute in the first place.
Nothing wrong with a GPL-like viral license for the AI era.
Training on my code / media / other data? No worries, just make sure the weights and other derived artifacts are released under similarly permissive license.
breezykoi•5m ago
Wouldn't you want the code generated by those models be released under those permissive licenses as well? Is that what you mean by other derived artifacts?
s1mplicissimus•3m ago
That's how I interpreted it at least
gentooflux•9m ago
AI is not humanity. Also many open source licenses have attribution clauses, which AI does not honor when it regurgitates.
fweirdo•2m ago
> But the part about FOSS being used in a project not aligned with the creator's values seams hypocritical
I agree with you.
Imagine a parallel Earth where there was OS that the majority in the world used called GNU/Felix. Felix (it/its) was the strong but kind leader on the project, but one day it had a head injury that somehow decreased its empathy but raised its IQ, so its team couldn’t say that it was incompetent for the task of architecting or programming, but those leading the project noticed that it was adding features that would track all user data and use it in some nefarious plan.
In this case, most would agree that for both the freedom and good of all, Felix should not longer lead this effort.
However, they would want to be sure that even the Will Bates’ great company Bikerosoft didn’t lead the project either, because despite its wonderful and ubiquitous Bikerosoft Office apps and Ezure cloud tools and infrastructure, it was a profit-based company.
throwfaraway135•41m ago
But the part about FOSS being used in a project not aligned with the creator's values seams hypocritical:
IMO FOOS is a gift to humanity and as such:
"A gift should be given freely, without obligation or expectation, as a true expression of love and kindness"
poszlem•33m ago
If this is suddenly being weaponised against us, I don't see how that's not a problem.
breezykoi•1m ago
croisillon•16m ago
wazoox•9m ago
Saint-Just
Palmik•13m ago
Training on my code / media / other data? No worries, just make sure the weights and other derived artifacts are released under similarly permissive license.
breezykoi•5m ago
s1mplicissimus•3m ago
gentooflux•9m ago
fweirdo•2m ago
I agree with you.
Imagine a parallel Earth where there was OS that the majority in the world used called GNU/Felix. Felix (it/its) was the strong but kind leader on the project, but one day it had a head injury that somehow decreased its empathy but raised its IQ, so its team couldn’t say that it was incompetent for the task of architecting or programming, but those leading the project noticed that it was adding features that would track all user data and use it in some nefarious plan.
In this case, most would agree that for both the freedom and good of all, Felix should not longer lead this effort.
However, they would want to be sure that even the Will Bates’ great company Bikerosoft didn’t lead the project either, because despite its wonderful and ubiquitous Bikerosoft Office apps and Ezure cloud tools and infrastructure, it was a profit-based company.