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After 25 years, Wikipedia has proved that news doesn't need to look like news

https://www.niemanlab.org/2026/01/after-25-years-wikipedia-has-proved-that-news-doesnt-need-to-look-like-news/
52•giuliomagnifico•1h ago

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larodi•1h ago
after 25 years wikipedia showed what it truly was created for, by selling the content for training. otherwise - okay, this was a cool project, perhaps we need better. like federated, crypto-signed articles that once collected together, @atproto style, produce the article with notable changes to it.
giuliomagnifico•57m ago
You’re saying Wikipedia was created 25 years ago to sell its content to train LLMs that didn’t even exist?! I doubt it…
littlestymaar•8m ago
“Jimmy Wales is even more of a visionary than we thought”
RestartKernel•30m ago
Their enterprise offering is more for fresh retrieval than training. For training, you can just download the free database dump — one you would inadvertently end up recreating if you were to use their enterprise APIs in a (pre-)training pipeline.
armchairhacker•25m ago
Context: https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/01/wikipedia-will-share-cont...

tl;dr: Wikipedia is CC and has public APIs, but AI companies have recently started paying for "enterprise" high-speed access.

Notably, the enterprise program started in 2021 and Google has been paying since 2022.

edgineer•49m ago
>just about every link to a Wikipedia page created in the past quarter-century still works

Not so sure about this; page titles change and redirects get removed. I'm thinking of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Nex_Benedict where initial news articles and her obituary used her birth name, Dagny Benedict, but soon this name was scrubbed from the wikipedia page, as well as its talk page and redirects, on the policy of deadnames.

usui•19m ago
Wow, I would expect there would at least be a single mention of "born Dagny Benedict" somewhere at the beginning of the background section as is typical in other pages. If this is intentional, to omit this entirely seems like it unnecessarily politicizes the issue rather than documenting the history of a person.
littlestymaar•10m ago
There's a tricky ethical question here: if someone changed their name and ask for not being called their former name ever again, you can either ignore their will, which is rude, or chose to follow it but then you are doing a disservice to the public's understanding.

The secind option used to be the norm on wikipedia even 15 years ago, but Anti-trans activists using dead-naming as a slur against trans people triggered the shift from the second option to the first.

As usual assholes are why we can't have nice things.

SirHumphrey•16m ago
Admittedly I do not know how much of a sensitive issue this is, but I find it surprising that the name given at birth is not mentioned anywhere on the Wikipedia page, even though in other cases of name change usually "Name (born Old Name)" is written.
CrzyLngPwd•30m ago
Oh goodness, if wiki is news, then it's the most biased and easily editable news outside of Winston Smith and the Ministry of Truth.
efilife•23m ago
Keep in mind that Wikipedia itself tells you that "Wikipedia is not a newspaper"

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NOTNEWS...

While having an "In the news" section on the front page

input_sh•20m ago
Those two statements don't contradict each other.
LudwigNagasena•8m ago
It clarifies exactly what that means. It doesn’t say that the information have to pass the test of time. Only that it is not a place of original reporting, unsourced gossip, etc.
brap•22m ago
Wikipedia has long been hijacked to serve agendas. The “truth” is whatever the highest bidder wants it to be.

Most recently hijacked by the Qatar dictatorship: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/16/pr-firm-p...

News, influencers, Wikipedia, almost all information we consume nowadays is intentional. And not even getting into billions poured into American colleges by the same people.

alex1138•6m ago
You need only to look at how many actual well credentialed doctors get their Wiki pages smeared with words like "misinformation spreader" for dissenting against covid narratives
beardyw•10m ago
It seems a shame Weeklypedia doesn't have an RSS feed.
Aardwolf•5m ago
When there's some big ongoing thing in the news there'll be many articles on that same topic on news websites and sometimes you can't even find the original one that tells what actually happened. Wikipedia's article on it is usually a great summary
horsh1•5m ago
Comparing the same article in different languages sometimes gets very educational.
jaccola•4m ago
In the UK I would say most people are proud of the BBC; many people I speak to are smug when comparing it to e.g. Fox News, CNBC, etc... I think this is a big mistake, and that the USA system is actually better.

It's impossible for one news source to be unbiased, and the delusion that it is unbiased is dangerous. If you truly believe a source is "the truth" and unbiased it allows you to switch off any critical thinking; the information bypasses any protections you have.

Much better to have many news sources where the bias is evident and the individual has to synthesise an opinion themselves (not claiming this is perfect by any means, but a perfect system does not exist).

It is obviously the case that Wikipedia is biased, and I think competition is a great thing.

though many are refusing to pay the (almost) legally mandatory "tv-license"

Pushing the smallest possible change to production

https://ankursethi.com/blog/smallest-possible-change/
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