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Genetic Data from over 20k U.S. Children Misused for 'Race Science'

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/24/us/children-genetics-race-science.html
10•DustinEchoes•1h ago

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DustinEchoes•1h ago
https://archive.ph/ZavpU
terminalshort•24m ago
I can't take any of this seriously so long as any research on race and intelligence continues to be banned as heresy rather than being discussed scientifically.
762236•20m ago
Totally agree.
conception•20m ago
For one the idea of race is a social, not scientific, construct. It doesn’t mean anything scientifically.
blargthorwars•13m ago
Some medicines work better or worse depending on race. Based on the scientific methodology, your statement is incorrect.
terminalshort•10m ago
You are a perfect example of what I am talking about. That is an obvious lie. Of course it means something scientifically because it refers to a genetic grouping. e.g. black people are much more likely to have the genetic disease sickle cell anemia. Nobody seems to have much of a problem with that statement but if it were a gene related to intelligence you people would lose your minds.
amarcheschi•19m ago
The person in question in the article is kirkegaard, you should not take seriously what he does anyway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Diversity_Foundation

inshard•11m ago
Interesting comparing these two entries:

https://grokipedia.com/page/OpenPsych

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPsych

terminalshort•3m ago
This criticism seems to mostly be that he is associated with bad people who say naughty things. Maybe he is a bad scientist, but where are all the well designed scientific studies that show his conclusions are wrong? That's what I care about, but they don't exist because you would never get funding and even to propose running such a study would be career suicide.
rf15•17m ago
Yeah I agree, considering how much my black kid is beating all the other white kids intellectually. Good to know you know your place. /s
bryanlarsen•10m ago
Race is not a genetic concept, it's social.

Or more accurately, if it were genetic the races would look very different.

The genetic diversity of "black" alone exceeds the rest of the world combined.

So you have two choices:

1. Everybody is black.

2. The other races roughly stand, but there are dozens of different black races.

Or you can be more accurate and say race is cultural.

rahimnathwani•12m ago
It seems weird for the government to collect data useful for research, but then to gate access based on the viewpoints of potential users. This restriction doesn't support the search for truth.

Whatever people think of Lasker (Cremieux) and his views, isn't data being available to all interested parties the best way to find the truth?

The article mentions this towards the very end:

  Adam Candeub, the top lawyer at the Federal Communications Commission, wrote a law review article in 2024 criticizing the N.I.H.’s discouragement of stigmatizing research. He compared it to the persecution of Galileo.
  “A liberal society should support the search for truth,” Mr. Candeub wrote, “regardless of how uncomfortable and unsettling that truth turns out to be.”
hubber•5m ago
If you think about it for just a moment, it would actually be extraordinary for the races to have diverged in so many easily observable and visible ways, yet somehow miraculously demonstrate absolutely no aggregate differences in any measurable way in any psychological, social, or intellectual attributes. It's so absurdly unlikely that it ought to require a mountain of evidence (and one hell of a theory explaining it) to not be laughed out of the conversation.

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