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Discord Launches Teen-by-Default Settings Globally

https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-default-settings-globally
59•dm•1h ago

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BoredPositron•1h ago
Can't wait to send my id to the cheapest identification provider they could find.
ChrisArchitect•1h ago
More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46945663
MiddleEndian•1h ago
I talk to three people on Discord. If I have to choose between A) giving Discord my ID, B) giving Discord a fraudulent ID, or C) just chatting with them on some other program, I'll just go with C. If I cared about Discord more I guess I'd figure out B. May get started with C ahead of time anyway.
rozab•20m ago
What am I missing? According to this, the only difference is you get a warning popup when someone new DMs you, right? And they can't send you images flagged as porn?

How does this impact you in any way?

MiddleEndian•14m ago
I'm generally opposed to services unnecessarily wanting IDs, content filtering for direct messages from my contacts, unwanted popups (it's already annoying when my friends send me a link to a site I haven't visited from discord before and it "warns" me and you cannot disable this entirely useless popups), and things generally becoming worse.

A lot of these things are normalized already, but requiring IDs is not and I don't want to see it become normalized.

Ultimately, they are free to do what they like (or perhaps being unnecessarily pressured by various govts) and I am free to leave the service.

dangus•59m ago
When big tech tosses money at Republicans and the Trump inauguration, they get what they paid for.

They got a world where the dollar is worth 10% less, where their customers turn away to EU alternatives, where the US isn’t seen as stable anymore, where the impartiality of the US corporate legal framework is no longer trusted. As the icing on the cake we’re now turning toward handmaid’s tale-style puritanical law (see also: SAVE act).

You can do business with a country with a thriving middle class, the most scientific research output on the planet, the world’s foremost technological and product innovations, and a dynamic, growing economy. Or you can do business with the USA. No wonder Canada is intersted in importing Chinese cars instead of American ones, because they’re better and cheaper.

Corporations know that doing business in the US has a lot of the risks of doing business in Russia. If Dear Leader sours on your company, expect to pay bribes or be forced to divest.

I hope these new draconian rules harm people like Elon and Zuck by reducing the appeal of their platforms.

I am not claiming that Discord in particular supports MAGA, but the industry as a whole has been enablers. At best they are complicit and silent.

The American two party system is essentially a choice between corporate stability (Democrats) and the actual mafia (MAGA Republicans). We elected a convicted felon who has been a literal part of the Russian mafia for decades.

superkuh•57m ago
It's a relief to finally read that Discord is indirectly shutting down and getting rid of it's users. It was inevitable but dragged out far too long with all the VC money to burn. Hopefully everyone can figure out how to use XMPP and/or get back on IRC. It is a genuine shame how much culture and information will be lost inside their walled garden though.
ROllerozxa•52m ago
I'm afraid the thing that would be replacing Discord will be even worse
joks•17m ago
XMPP and IRC are great and all but a massive part of what people use Discord for is group voice calls with screen-sharing. I'm not sure what the alternative is for that. TeamSpeak is the closest I can think of but it's not a 1:1 replacement for a number of reasons.
ahhhhnoooo•48m ago
So where we all jumping to?
q3k•46m ago
Running phpBB on some crappy shared hosting. Well, these days on some crappy VPS.
mbirth•30m ago
At least this would make FAQs and other important bits of information available to non-users and search engines.
sekh60•27m ago
I'm being completely serious, but what is the current fav open source forum software these days? I'd love to host a forum for a small community I'm involved in. Not a stranger to hosting other things across a variety of stacks, so I'm not particular about technology used.
tingling168•11m ago
You could take a look at https://nodebb.org/
ramesh31•45m ago
TeamSpeak and Ventrillo still work great. It was a monumental mistake to switch to these 3rd party services that are bugged by every intelligence apparatus on earth.
superkuh•43m ago
I gave up running my TS3 servers (after nearly a decade) because they added a trialware system that required getting approval/serial code from the company every month to continue operating. They were squeezing everyone on TS3 trying to force them to TS4/5/etc. Have they stopped this or walked it back?

And to be clear, Teamspeak from version 5 on is not teamspeak. It's matrix with a skin. Not that that's terrible, but it's not great for running it on low power/cost VPS like actual teamspeak was.

Hikikomori•40m ago
Could use mumble instead?
ahhhhnoooo•38m ago
Those are voice chat, yeah? Discord has chat too, which is used more than voice in many of my communities.
agoodusername63•30m ago
That would be great if your community only exists in a voip channel
SunshineTheCat•40m ago
Someone bring back AOL instant messenger! >:(

Jokes aside, I've played around with Campfire and it's very, very simple, but pretty nice to use and easy to set up: https://once.com/campfire

beatothewitch•24m ago
People talking about moving to Revolt. It's the most similar
joks•15m ago
Yeah Stoat is the closest, but no video calling still. But that's in the pipeline at least
yownie•12m ago
our groups are discussing [stoat](https://stoat.chat/).

I don't know it well yet.

.......yet.

strokirk•12m ago
IRC never died.
jedberg•38m ago
Oh yay, the company that told me to "just use your wife's phone" when I couldn't verify my own phone number, instead of even trying to fix the problem, now wants a copy of my face?

Pardon me if I don't have a lot of trust in their ability to keep it safe.

soared•37m ago
> After completing a chosen method, users will receive confirmation via a direct message from Discord’s official account.

Why isn’t this delivered via some sort of notification, menu, pop-up, etc? DMs seem prime for phishing

Daedren•33m ago
> Facial age estimation

This clearly doesn't work and they're surely aware of it. Perhaps it's even intentional as a choice to give kids a way out, just trying to cover their own asses in regards to regulation.

Ajedi32•15m ago
When you try to use the law (or the threat of legal action) to force people to "do something" about anonymous, unsupervised kids on the public internet using their free platform, this is the type of solution you're going to get: the cheapest, most scalable one they can get away with.

Previously that was a checkbox or a line in their ToS saying "I'm over 18". Now that lawmakers are pushing to make that no longer sufficient, "AI face scanning" is the next step up.

seneca•30m ago
We're going to need decentralized open source alternatives with E2EE for any major communication services, unfortunately. It's just too temping of a target for Governments. They're never going to give up trying to destroy anonymity online.
throwatdem12311•27m ago
You’re out of your mind if you think I’m gonna upload ID to use a “shitposting about video games with friends” service.
canada_dry•21m ago
To protect my privacy, I have a photoshopped drivers license with a photo of my dog that I've successfully used for verification (e.g. AirBnB) in the past.

Though, with AI being used I suspect it wouldn't pass any longer.

chimpanzee2•11m ago
wdym, how did your dog driver license even pass before AI ?!
zdragnar•9m ago
The tech used some variant of OCR, presumably
canada_dry•7m ago
He's a handsome boy.

Guessing they probably just ran some rudimentary OCR on the image to compare the name and DOB. I modified the actual license# as well as the picture.

sunaookami•18m ago
Yeah, I've been warning everyone about the consequences but nobody wanted to hear it. So do people still want a general social media ban for teens?
xg15•16m ago
Then use that server without age verification?
AlienRobot•14m ago
By Discord's own ToS you can't use Discord if you are under 13, so this change is just to make sure users that are 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17 years old are appropriately labelled.

Why doesn't Discord require ALL users to upload their faces to prove that they are at least 13 years old and eligible to use the service?

ForHackernews•13m ago
https://use-their-id.com/
plingbang•10m ago
> Teen-by-default settings to roll out globally for all Discord users

Does it mean that even people who reside outside jurisdictions touched by the age verification craze will have to deal with all this?

> use facial age estimation

Surely a kid won't be able to ask someone else to pass the check for them. But let's talk about false positives. If the estimator falsely declares someone an adult, is Discord legally liable?

> submit a form of identification

If you have a picture of an ID document, can you verify that it's real? You'd have to ask the government for that. And at least in one country there is no process for that.

> On-device processing

Oh, a client-side check. Must be secure.

xg15•9m ago
ITT: Lots of adults angry they can't open NSFW images on a messaging service primarily branded for teens (without sending their ID).
sunaookami•7m ago
Yeah yeah it's to protect the kids and everyone's a pedophile, do you have anything new to add?
xg15•2m ago
Only that I don't understand why everyone here is talking as if they had just been forced at gun point to age verify. Just... don't verify until you need it?

Also pedophiles do exist (see Epstein and friends) and bad neighborhoods on the internet do exist. This is currently a problem on the internet that needs to be solved. No one here is giving any suggestions how to solve it, but we sure are quick to shot down any solutions that people are trying.

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