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Communities Are Not Fungible

https://www.joanwestenberg.com/communities-are-not-fungible/
16•tardibear•1h ago

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ttoinou•1h ago
It’d be helpful to cite which kind of economists / intellectuals make such claims. There are different incompatible schools.
ajuc•1h ago
This is why open source for communication platforms is so important.

Discord WILL disappear at some point and millions of people will lose their communities.

testdelacc1•46m ago
I agree with Joan here, communities aren’t fungible. Building something where something already exists does carry a cost.

But I can also see how this will be used as one more arrow in the quiver of NIMBYs. In addition to environmental, economic, political reasons not to build something, also consider the cost to potentially breaking existing community bonds. We shouldn’t build new high density housing because the new residents will never be able to replicate the community of the previous low density single family home neighbourhood.

You can tell this is a NIMBY piece because it doesn’t touch on how to build new communities, just that existing ones exist and new ones can’t be built and even if they can they’ll be poor imitations of the old ones. So instead of trying to build new things, let’s preserve what we have already. It would have been more interesting and honest if it had explored the role of say, third spaces and how consciously creating the right conditions can lead to community formation.

After all, even the communities that exist today were empty land once upon a time, until we built the infrastructure and community within. If all we ever did was preserve we wouldn’t even have the communities today that we value so much.

FranklinJabar•15m ago
> But I can also see how this will be used as one more arrow in the quiver of NIMBYs.

hoe much are NIMBYs actually a problem these days? It seems to me that YIMBYs insisting on building anything, anything, anything at all, damn the cost, be it a privately developed five over one or a publicly funded ferris wheel downtown, are a much bigger issue now. We should be intentional about the communities we are developing (say, FUCKING PUBLIC HOUSING), and ideally not spoonfeeding capital more of our lifeblood as most YIMYs insist on

testdelacc1•11m ago
I live in a city that consistently builds about 3-4% of the number of homes we need to build each year. We don’t build rail, we don’t electricity transmission infrastructure, all of which increases our cost of living.

NIMBYs are doing great, I’d say.

DocTomoe•4m ago
That would imply that 96-97% of population growth in your city immediately becomes homeless. Obviously, that is not the case.
renewiltord•22m ago
Sure all the people who somehow find themselves unable to find community, are neurotic as fuck, and who are lonely have some sort of theory for how community is formed. This is definitely a case of "those who can, do; those who can't, teach". This entire field is full of immeasurable guru-bullshit without anything of any value in it. It's just pseudo-science dressed up in the language of science with some pithy lines of how "there's more to it than numbers" and garbage like that. It's just made up bullshit from people who really shouldn't have received a college degree.

Out with this garbage. Defund the bullies.

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