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OpenAI raises $110B on $730B pre-money valuation

https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/27/openai-raises-110b-in-one-of-the-largest-private-funding-rounds-in-history/
57•zlatkov•1h ago

Comments

maplethorpe•1h ago
> The Information had previously reported that $35 billion of Amazon’s investment could be contingent on the company either achieving AGI or making its IPO by the end of the year. OpenAI’s announcement confirms the funding split, but says only that the additional $35 billion will arrive “in the coming months when certain conditions are met.”

Incredible.

konschubert•1h ago
So basically, Amazon is buying into the IPO at an early price. Maybe this is the time to divest from MSCI world. I don’t want to be the bag holder in the world’s largest pump and dump.

It can both be true at the same time: That AI is going to disrupt our world and that Open AI does not have a business model that supports its valuation.

WarmWash•1h ago
Tesla is a car company with relatively small, and shrinking, sales, that is worth $1.5T on the promise of [Elons_Promise_of_the_Month]
sixQuarks•1h ago
You forgot to mention they solved vision based autonomous driving, but I guess that doesn’t matter if Elon = bad
zozbot234•1h ago
SAE level 2 driver assistance is explicitly not autonomous driving.
iancmceachern•1h ago
Huh? They did not "solve" vision based driving.
eviks•1h ago
Of course, but if Elon=great you can ignore that
SpicyLemonZest•1h ago
It's this kind of dynamic that makes me pull back on my otherwise pretty AI-forward stance. There's an entire community of people who passionately believe it's obvious and undeniable that Elon Musk has solved problems that he has not solved and his companies deliver things they don't deliver. Tesla is absolutely unambiguous in their marketing material (https://www.tesla.com/fsd) that they do not have autonomous driving, but you're far from the first person I've encountered who's been tricked into believing otherwise.

I don't think that's my relationship with AI, I'm hardly an uncritical booster. But would I know if it was?

albedoa•1h ago
Hope daddy sees this and gives you that lollipop.
outside1234•57m ago
Seems not solved:

https://fortune.com/2026/02/26/tesla-robotaxis-4x-8x-worse-t...

konschubert•45m ago
yea, proving my point that the index funds are maybe not the safest place if you want to invest into real value. And soon, twitter/Grok/spacex might be doing an IPO
general_reveal•1h ago
Did it ever occur to you that an entire generation of developers are going to retire in less than 20 years? They are betting that the software industry will be autonomous. Really, think of our industry like AUV phenomena. We’re the drivers that are about to be shown the door, that’s the bet.

World will still need software, lots of it. Their valuation is based on an entire developer-less future world (no labor costs).

wongarsu•1h ago
OpenAI has all the name recognition (which is worth a couple billion in itself), but when it comes to actual business use cases in the here and now Anthropic seems ahead. Even more so if we are talking about software dev. But they are valued at less than half of OpenAI's valuation

What is somewhat justifying OpenAI's valuation is that they are still trying for AGI. They are not just working on models that work here and now, they are still approaching "simulating worlds" from all kinds of angles (vision, image generation, video generation, world generation), presumably in hopes that this will at some point coalesce in a model with much better understanding of our world and its agency in it. If this comes to pass OpenAI's value is near unlimited. If it doesn't, its value is at best half what it is today

zozbot234•1h ago
Obligatory reminder that today's so called "AGI" has trouble figuring out whether I should walk or drive to the car wash in order to get my dirty car washed. It has to think through the scenario step by step, whereas any human can instantly grok the right answer.
SpicyLemonZest•52m ago
I just don't know how to engage with these criticisms anymore. Do you not see how increasingly convoluted the "simple question LLMs can't answer" bar has gotten since 2022? Do the human beings you know not have occasional brain farts where they recommend dumb things that don't make much sense?
wongarsu•42m ago
The idea/hope is that a video model would answer the car wash problem correctly. There are exactly the kinds of issues you have to solve to avoid teleporting objects around in a video, so whenever we manage more than a couple seconds of coherent video we will have something that understands the real world much better than text-based models. Then we "just" have to somehow make a combined model that has this kind of understanding and can write text and make tool calls

Yes, this is kind of like Tesla promising full self driving in 2016

rvz•57m ago
> What is somewhat justifying OpenAI's valuation is that they are still trying for AGI.

"AGI" is the IPO.

whizzter•55m ago
> What is somewhat justifying OpenAI's valuation is that they are still trying for AGI.

And that's the dealbreaker for me since they've been so adamant on scaling taking them there, while we're all seeing how it's been diminishing returns for a while.

I was worried a few years back with the overwhelming buzz, but my 2017 blogpost is still holding strong. To be fair it did point to ASI where valuation is indeed unlimited, but nowadays the definition of AGI is quite weakened in comparison.. but does that then convey an unlimited valuation?

lenerdenator•44m ago
> If this comes to pass OpenAI's value is near unlimited.

How?

If we have AGI, we have a scenario where human knowledge-based value creation as we know it is suddenly worthless. It's not a stretch to imagine that human labor-based value creation wouldn't be far behind. Altman himself has said that it would break capitalism.

This isn't a value proposition for a business, it's an end of value proposition for society. The only people who find real value in that are people who spend far too much time online doing things like arguing about Roko's Basilisk - which is just Pascal's Wager with GPUs - and people who are so wealthy that they've been disconnected with real-world consequences.

The only reason anyone sees value in this is because the second group of people think it'll serve their self-concept as the best and brightest humanity has ever had to offer. They're confusing ego with ability to create economic value.

zozbot234•37m ago
"End of human-based value creation" is tantamount to post-scarcity. It "breaks" capitalism because it supposedly obviates the resource allocation problem that the free-market economy is the answer to. It's what Karl Marx actually pointed to as his utopian "fully realized communism". Most people would think of that as a pipe dream, but if you actually think it's viable, why wouldn't you want it?
zozbot234•1h ago
Even the rise of high-level languages did not lead to a "developer-less future". What it did was improve productivity and make software cheaper by orders of magnitude; but compiler vendors did not benefit all that much from the shift.
outside1234•54m ago
But Anthropic is the one that is disrupting software development? So why are we not piling into that?
konschubert•48m ago
It can both be true that

a) AI is going to replace a Bazillion-Dollar Industry and that

b) being an AI model provider does not allow to capture margins above 5% long-term

I am not saying that this is what will happen, but it's a plausible scenario. Without farmers we would all be dead but that does not mean the they capture monopoly rents on their assets.

RobotToaster•1h ago
Exactly, the dot com bubble didn't mean that the internet was just a fad.
stavros•1h ago
I'd love to know how they define AGI.
baal80spam•1h ago
Altman Gets Investment?
zozbot234•1h ago
They've previously defined AGI as an AI that can directly create $100B in economic value.
stavros•1h ago
Hmm interesting, thanks. I wonder how much value it's already created.
boringg•1h ago
I'm curious how they define AGI technically. Seems like you would want that to be a tight definition.
uluyol•1h ago
It just needs to be anything that will force OpenAI to IPO.
lm28469•1h ago
Didn't they already define it as "a system capable of generating at least $100 billion in profit"
outside1234•1h ago
Hopefully Microsoft is selling parts of their share of this trash into these funding rounds...
snitch182•1h ago
730 Billion certainly is a bubble that will pop sooner or later.
thinkingtoilet•1h ago
Only $730B? Why stop there? As long as we're making stuff up, let's go big. What about $10T?
sunaookami•1h ago
Rookie numbers, I say $100T. Go big or go home.
frizlab•1h ago
https://paintraincomic.com/comic/first-date/
muzani•1h ago
They have to save the big T for IPO.

On a tangent, I remember companies like Slack triggering the unicorn craze. They said that it was just better to aim for a billion than some number like 900M or 1.2B, because psychologically, it meant more to employees, investors, and customers.

OpenAI is in that place where nobody really cares for these mind games. It's not very reliable. But it is useful enough to pay for. It's cheap enough to be an impulse purchase where some guy decides to just subscribe to ChatGPT because they're working on an important slide or sketching a logo.

outside1234•1h ago
Remember when it was a huge milestone when gigantic companies like Apple and Microsoft were striving to be the first $1T company backed with decades of building actual businesses with actual profit?

Good times.

ViewTrick1002•1h ago
Taking the circular deals up another magnitude?
ChicagoDave•1h ago
It’s Tesla only big tech are the suckers.
9cb14c1ec0•1h ago
There is not a single OpenAI model in the top 10 on openrouter's ranking page. The market is saying something about the comparative value of OpenAI.

Edit: yes, it is true that many people do integrate directly with OpenAI. That doesn't negate the fact that Openrouter users are largely not using OpenAI.

cj•55m ago
> The market is saying something about the comparative value of OpenAI.

Is it?

At what point are the models going to all be "good enough", with the differentiating factor being everything else, other than model ranking?

That day will come. Not everyone needs a Ferrari.

Edit: I misread the parent, I think they're saying the same thing.

alephnerd•53m ago
> At what point are the models going to all be "good enough", with the differentiating factor being everything else, other than model ranking?

It's already come for vast swathes of industries.

Most organizations have already been able to operationalize what are essentially GPT4 and GPT5 wrappers for standard enterprise usecases such as network security (eg. Horizon3) and internal knowledge discovery and synthesis (eg. GleanAI back in 2024-25).

9cb14c1ec0•50m ago
Yes, and that is why I used the phrase comparative value. The concept of winning business based on being #1 on the benchmarks is dead.
alephnerd•49m ago
I agree, and most of my peers do as well. This is why most of us shifted to funding AI Applications startups back in 2023-24. Most of these players are still in stealth or aren't household names, but neither are ServiceNow, Salesforce, Palo Alto Networks, Wiz, or Snowflake.

Foundation Models have reached a relative plateau and much of the recent hype wasn't due to enhanced model performance but smart packaging on top of existing capabilities to solve business outcomes (eg. OpenClaw, Antheopic's business suite, etc).

Most foundation model rounds are essentially growth equity rounds (not venture capital) to finance infra/DC buildouts to scale out delivery or custom ASICs to enhance operating margins.

This isn't a bad thing - it means AI in the colloquial definition has matured to the point that it has become reality.

nradov•49m ago
Model rankings are irrelevant. No one cares.

The differentiating factor will be access to proprietary training data. Everyone can scrape the public web and use that to train an LLM. The frontier companies are spending a fortune to buy exclusive licenses to private data sources, and even hiring expert humans specifically to create new training data on priority topics.

aworks•1m ago
Including paying poets and other experts by the hour to improve the models https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/brendan-foody/
spott•50m ago
This could just be because everyone is using direct OpenAI api keys when using OpenAI.
poplarsol•49m ago
Or, their customers integrate with them directly.
esafak•46m ago
Sample bias.
chirau•55m ago
If OpenAI is Pied Piper, who is Russ Hanneman in all this?
benatkin•50m ago
I thought with OpenClaw they'd get more than a 3.67x multiplier of what Anthropic raised.
EdNutting•49m ago
Circular-breathing causes the air to heat up, causing expansion. This is how a balloon can expand even when someone is breathing air from inside it.

s/breathing/investment/g s/balloon/bubble/g s/air/money/g

layer8•38m ago
I performed the suggested substitution. What is the heating up of money in that analogy?
EdNutting•26m ago
Sarcastically, it's "the vibes intensifying".

(Vibes ~ Vibrations ~ Heat)

Tbf it's a reasonable question... I think it's a little tricky to pin down the equivalent of "kinetic energy" in purely economic terms, though you might look at the rate of flow of money as some analogy for the speed/energy of particles (speed of individual dollars changing hands). In that sense, the more frequent and larger these deals get, the hotter the market is. This is not a novel analogy.

trilogic•43m ago
So let´s see if I understood well this one: Got 110 Billions with the promise that either AGI will happen soon (:) or going public before the end of the year. Eitherway you get to double your 110 Billions no matter what (who will be left to pay the full bill after it, public or public)?

Very interesting, I will follow it closely, mostly to see how you ROI 110 Billions in a couple of years.

whoami4041•39m ago
That's a pretty lofty valuation for a company that has yet to demonstrate code generation anywhere near Anthropic's models if they're leaning into the engineering angle.
ChrisArchitect•23m ago
Source: https://openai.com/index/scaling-ai-for-everyone/ (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47180302)

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