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https://developer.chrome.com/blog/webmcp-epp
55•andsoitis•1h ago

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whywhywhywhy•1h ago
>Users could more easily get the exact flights they want

Can we stop pretending this is an issue anyone has ever had.

qwertox•1h ago
I want my local dm shop to offer me their product info as copyable markdown, ingredient list, and other health related information. This could be a way to automate it.
Lord_Zero•52m ago
dm?
arcanemachiner•52m ago
Since you didn't say what a "dm shop" is, I'll assume you mean "dungeon master shop" where you buy Dungeons and Dragons-y stuff.

Or maybe it's a "direct marketing shop", where you bring flyers to be delivered into people's mail? Yeah, that must be it.

Sophira•45m ago
Given that it's about food or medicine somehow, because of the mention of ingredients lists and health-related information, it's probably https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dm-drogerie_markt (usually abbreviated "dm").

(I didn't know about that either before now.)

larrymcp•41m ago
He probably means the large German drug store chain called DM.

https://www.dm.de/

echoangle•31m ago
Why would you want that over a proper API with structured data?
thayne•34m ago
Well I have had the problem of "I want to find the cheapest flight that leaves during this range of dates, and returns during this range of dates, but isn't early in the morning or late at night, and includes additional fees for the luggage I need in the price comparison" and current search tools can't do that very well. I'm not very optimistic WebMCP would solve that though.
trollbridge•22m ago
matrix.ita does this very well, and has been doing so for nearly 3 decades.
BeefySwain•1h ago
Can someone explain what the hell is going on here?

Do websites want to prevent automated tooling, as indicated by everyone putting everything behind Cloudfare and CAPTCHAs since forever, or do websites want you to be able to automate things? Because I don't see how you can have both.

If I'm using Selenium it's a problem, but if I'm using Claude it's fine??

BeefySwain•1h ago
Also, as someone who has tried to build tools that automate finding flights, The existing players in the space have made it nearly impossible to do. But now Google is just going to open the door for it?
parhamn•59m ago
Is the website Stripe or NYTimes?
jmalicki•56m ago
In early experiments with the Claude Chrome extension Google sites detected Claude and blocked it too. Shrug
manveerc•53m ago
In my opinion sites that want agent access should expose server-side MCP, server owns the tools, no browser middleman. Already works today.

Sites that don’t want it will keep blocking. WebMCP doesn’t change that.

Your point about selenium is absolutely right. WebMCP is an unnecessary standard. Same developer effort as server-side MCP but routed through the browser, creating a copy that drifts from the actual UI. For the long tail that won’t build any agent interface, the browser should just get smarter at reading what’s already there.

Wrote about it here: https://open.substack.com/pub/manveerc/p/webmcp-false-econom...

arjunchint•39m ago
So... an API?

Most sites don't want to expose APIs or care enough about setup and maintenance of said API.

manveerc•37m ago
Are you asking if Agents should use API?
nudpiedo•52m ago
They will wish that you use an official API, follow the funnel they settled for you, and make purchases no matter how
loveparade•48m ago
Not fine if you use Claude. But it's fine if you are Google Flights and the user uses Gemini. The paid version of course.
victorbjorklund•39m ago
They wanna let you use the service the way they want.

An e-commerce? Wanna automate buying your stuff - probably something they wanna allow under controlled forms

Wanna scrape the site to compare prices? Maybe less so.

chrash•37m ago
i’m seeing this at my corporate software job now. that service that you used to have security and product approval for to even read their Swagger doc has an MCP server you can install with 2 clicks.
politelemon•27m ago
Sometimes, it gets added there without your consent.
buzzerbetrayed•35m ago
Why should a browser care about how websites want you to use them?
OsrsNeedsf2P•20m ago
These are obviously different people you're talking about here
nojs•13m ago
It’s weirder than that. There is a surge of companies working on how to provide automated access to things like payments, email, signup flows, etc to *Claw.
akersten•9m ago
I'm old enough to remember discussions around the meaning of `User-Agent` and why it was important that we include it in HTTP headers. Back before it was locked to `Chromium (Gecko; Mozilla 4.0/NetScape; 147.01 ...)`. We talked about a magical future where your PDA, car, or autonomous toaster could be browsing the web on your behalf, and consuming (or not consuming) the delivered HTML as necessary. Back when we named it "user agent" on purpose. AI tooling can finally realize this for the Web, but it's a shame that so many companies who built their empires on the shoulders of those visionaries think the only valid way to browse is with a human-eyeball-to-server chain of trust.
dawnerd•6m ago
And what site is going to open their api up to everyone? Document endpoints already exist, why make it more complicated.
arjunchint•48m ago
Majority of sites don't even expose accessibility functionalities, and for WebMCP you have to expose and maintain internal APIs per page. This opens the site up to abuse/scraping/etc.

Thats why I dont see this standard going to takeoff.

Google put it out there to see uptake. Its really fun to talk about but will be forgotten by end of year is my hot take.

Rather what I think will be the future is that each website will have its own web agent to conversationally get tasks done on the site without you having to figure out how the site works. This is the thesis for Rover (rover.rtrvr.ai), our embeddable web agent with which any site can add a web agent that can type/click/fill by just adding a script tag.

lloydatkinson•46m ago
Sadly I do see this slop taking off purely because something something AI, investors, shareholders, hype. I mean even the Chrome devtools now push AI in my face at least once a week, so the slop has saturated all the layers.

They don't give a fuck about accessibility unless it results in fines. Otherwise it's totally invisible to them. AI on the other hand is everywhere at the moment.

ok_dad•12m ago
This isn’t even MCP, it’s just tools. If it were real MCP of definitely have fun using the “sampling” feature of MCP with people who visit my site…

IYKYK

jauntywundrkind•10m ago
> for WebMCP you have to expose and maintain internal APIs

Perhaps. I think an API for the session is probably the root concern.

You say it like it's a bad thing. But ideally this also brings clarity & purpose to your own API design too.

> This opens the site up to abuse/scraping/etc.

In general it bothers me that this is regarded as a problem at all. In principle, sites that try to clickjack & prevent people from downloading images or whatever have been with us for decades. Trying to keep users from seeing what data they want is, generally, not something I favor.

I'd like to see some positive reward cycles begin, where sites let users do more, enable them to get what they want more quickly, in ways that work better for them.

The web is so unique in that users often can reject being corralled and cajoled. That they have some choice. A lot of businesses being the old app-centric "we determine the user experience" ego to the web when they work, but, imo, there's such a symbiosis to be won by both parties by actually enhancing user agency, rather than this war against your most engaged users.

> Rather what I think will be the future is that each website will have its own web agent to conversationally get tasks done on the site without you having to figure out how the site works

For someone who just was talking about abuse, this seems like a surprising idea. Your site running its own agent is going to take a lot of resources!!

It also, imo, misses the idea of what MCP is. MCP is a tool calling system, and usually, it's not just one tool involved! If an agent is using webmcp to send contacts from one system into a party planning webmcp, that whole flow is interesting and compelling because the agent can orchestrate across multiple systems.

Trying to build your own agent is, broadly, a terrible idea, that will never allow the user to wield the connected agency they would want to be bringing.

paraknight•42m ago
I suspect people will get pretty riled up in the comments. This is fine folks. More people will make their stuff machine-accessible and that's a good thing even if MCP won't last or if it's like VHS -- yes Betamax was better, but VHS pushed home video.
827a•29m ago
Advancing capability in the models themselves should be expected to eat alive every helpful harness you create to improve its capabilities.
varenc•27m ago
This seems to be the actual docs: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rtU1fRPS0bMqd9abMG_hc6K9...
yk•27m ago
Hey, it's the semantic web, but with ~~XML~~, ~~AJAX~~, ~~Blockchain~~, Ai!

Well, it has precisely the problem of the semantic web, it asks the website to declare in a machine readable format what the website does. Now, llms are kinda the tool to interface to everybody using a somewhat different standard, and this doesn't need everybody to hop on the bandwagon, so perhaps this is the time where it is different.

koolala•13m ago
Are AI smart enough to automatically generate semantics now? Vibe semantics? Or would they be Slop semantics?
jauntywundrkind•20m ago
I actually think webmcp is incredibly smart & good (giving users agency over what's happening on the page is a giant leap forward for users vs exposing APIs).

But this post frustrates the hell out of me. There's no code! An incredibly brief barely technical run-down of declarative vs imperative is the bulk of the "technical" content.

I find this developers.chrome.com post to be broadly insulting. It has no on-ramps for developers.

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