Do websites want to prevent automated tooling, as indicated by everyone putting everything behind Cloudfare and CAPTCHAs since forever, or do websites want you to be able to automate things? Because I don't see how you can have both.
If I'm using Selenium it's a problem, but if I'm using Claude it's fine??
Sites that don’t want it will keep blocking. WebMCP doesn’t change that.
Your point about selenium is absolutely right. WebMCP is an unnecessary standard. Same developer effort as server-side MCP but routed through the browser, creating a copy that drifts from the actual UI. For the long tail that won’t build any agent interface, the browser should just get smarter at reading what’s already there.
Wrote about it here: https://open.substack.com/pub/manveerc/p/webmcp-false-econom...
Most sites don't want to expose APIs or care enough about setup and maintenance of said API.
An e-commerce? Wanna automate buying your stuff - probably something they wanna allow under controlled forms
Wanna scrape the site to compare prices? Maybe less so.
Thats why I dont see this standard going to takeoff.
Google put it out there to see uptake. Its really fun to talk about but will be forgotten by end of year is my hot take.
Rather what I think will be the future is that each website will have its own web agent to conversationally get tasks done on the site without you having to figure out how the site works. This is the thesis for Rover (rover.rtrvr.ai), our embeddable web agent with which any site can add a web agent that can type/click/fill by just adding a script tag.
They don't give a fuck about accessibility unless it results in fines. Otherwise it's totally invisible to them. AI on the other hand is everywhere at the moment.
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Perhaps. I think an API for the session is probably the root concern.
You say it like it's a bad thing. But ideally this also brings clarity & purpose to your own API design too.
> This opens the site up to abuse/scraping/etc.
In general it bothers me that this is regarded as a problem at all. In principle, sites that try to clickjack & prevent people from downloading images or whatever have been with us for decades. Trying to keep users from seeing what data they want is, generally, not something I favor.
I'd like to see some positive reward cycles begin, where sites let users do more, enable them to get what they want more quickly, in ways that work better for them.
The web is so unique in that users often can reject being corralled and cajoled. That they have some choice. A lot of businesses being the old app-centric "we determine the user experience" ego to the web when they work, but, imo, there's such a symbiosis to be won by both parties by actually enhancing user agency, rather than this war against your most engaged users.
> Rather what I think will be the future is that each website will have its own web agent to conversationally get tasks done on the site without you having to figure out how the site works
For someone who just was talking about abuse, this seems like a surprising idea. Your site running its own agent is going to take a lot of resources!!
It also, imo, misses the idea of what MCP is. MCP is a tool calling system, and usually, it's not just one tool involved! If an agent is using webmcp to send contacts from one system into a party planning webmcp, that whole flow is interesting and compelling because the agent can orchestrate across multiple systems.
Trying to build your own agent is, broadly, a terrible idea, that will never allow the user to wield the connected agency they would want to be bringing.
Well, it has precisely the problem of the semantic web, it asks the website to declare in a machine readable format what the website does. Now, llms are kinda the tool to interface to everybody using a somewhat different standard, and this doesn't need everybody to hop on the bandwagon, so perhaps this is the time where it is different.
But this post frustrates the hell out of me. There's no code! An incredibly brief barely technical run-down of declarative vs imperative is the bulk of the "technical" content.
I find this developers.chrome.com post to be broadly insulting. It has no on-ramps for developers.
whywhywhywhy•1h ago
Can we stop pretending this is an issue anyone has ever had.
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arcanemachiner•52m ago
Or maybe it's a "direct marketing shop", where you bring flyers to be delivered into people's mail? Yeah, that must be it.
Sophira•45m ago
(I didn't know about that either before now.)
larrymcp•41m ago
https://www.dm.de/
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