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The beauty and terror of modding Windows

https://windowsread.me/p/windhawk-explained
35•wild_pointer•2h ago

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davydm•1h ago
I gave up modding windows in any meaningful way after the several times I was left with a machine which was unstable, or had some other issue, or simply became 100% broken after a windows update was pushed to my machine.

It's a corporate operating system, not a user operating system. If you want to customise your desktop experience and have a stable time of it - this is not your platform, sorry. There is really only one platform for customisation: linux. Because distros and software there have been _designed_ around user choice.

Hacks are cool, but inevitably open up vulnerability pathways, not to mention issues with stability and being able to receive security patches, rolled into windows update. It's fine if it's just a personal pc you can reload at any point, but it's pointless for a machine that you require to keep functioning (eg a work machine, or, my personal machine, which does stuff like organise media on a regular basis).

aleph_minus_one•22m ago
> There is really only one platform for customisation: linux. Because distros and software there have been _designed_ around user choice.

At least older versions of Windows were quite modifiable: not as radical as on GNU/Linux, but there were a lot of possibilities.

Rather with the arrival of smartphones and rising popularity of macOS (which all were rather about "enjoying" a prescribed user experience), Microsoft did a U-turn and started applying this (anti-(?))pattern to Windows, too.

kace91•1h ago
>If you dig through Windows enthusiast communities

TIL those exist (genuinely).

I’ve never met anyone who likes windows, just people who put up with it for work/gaming and people who doesn’t care about the whole thing enough to move from the default (which is totally understandable).

RcouF1uZ4gsC•1h ago
There are probably more Windows enthusiasts than there are Linux enthusiasts in absolute numbers.
bialpio•1h ago
I'm in the camp of liking Windows and having had to put up with Linux and MacOS for work. Inertia and familiarity does play a role, but as a dev there are things I really like (ETW + WinDbg immediately come to mind) & really miss on other OSes. I'm not there yet to join an enthusiast group though. ;)
croisillon•55m ago
i can confess discovering XP back then made me actively like Windows ; that was a long time ago though and with each new version my liking has been reaching new abysses
mystifyingpoi•41m ago
There are people like this, although very small minority. I've met one at university - he was probably the first person to have Windows 8 laptop with a touchscreen, showing off to everyone how cool is was (at that time).

He was also really good at Microsoft Word, unironically - he made extensive use of custom styling and could format an assignment paper in like 30 seconds. He was super useful in group projects.

skrebbel•31m ago
Wow it sounds like you're describing exactly me. All the way until the touchscreen laptop with Windows 8. Scary shit!

I used to laugh at the LaTeX masochists in college spending 15 minutes just to put a picture where they wanted the picture to be. They had to add like four 1-character modifiers to the "insert image" command, each of which meant "yes, really here", "no, don't move it to the next page" and "nono, really really here".

MS Word is properly great if you only use the custom style rules (basically CSS classes) at the paragraph level, and never directly apply styling (basically inline styles) except for super basic stuff like making a word italic. Has great referencing tools etc, fantastic formula editor and so on. And, well, you can use ultra modern human-machine interaction technology such as a mouse to choose where a picture goes and how big it is.

(They might've enshittified it since; the last paper I wrote was in 2010 and Word was pretty damn decent back then)

trympet•25m ago
Did you also have a windows 8 laptop with touch screen?
skrebbel•17m ago
Yep! Sorry I just edited that in. Win8 is thoroughly underrated to me. The file open/close dialogs were shit but the start menu was very good. I quite liked the fullscreen apps and am sad they got discontinued. Fullscreen IE browsing with full touch support (eg swipe for back/forward, no window chromes in the way to mis-click on etc) was very cool. It made every website feel like a fullscreen app. It almost made the terrible browser engine (it was still IE after all) bearable. Almost.

I'm pretty much still on the same setup now, Win11 plus touchscreen. You'll pry my touchscreen out of my cold dead hands. How will I rage-close a "try chrome" popup without a touch screen? You ever try to rage click something with a touchpad? Total non starter.

johanneskanybal•25m ago
I mean not everyone cheers for the currently best soccer team either, it's partly about what you're invested in. If I had spent many years in Windows dev land I'm sure I would be arguing that side too.
baal80spam•1h ago
Never heard of Windhawk.
lproven•56m ago
This was news to me, too.

But I rarely use Windows. I used to like it but for me XP was so ugly and bloated I switched to Linux and OS X full-time. I've never looked back.

I just play occasionally to keep my skills vaguely current. Sometimes I need to work with it.

Windows 11 is awful. Bloated, full of ads and nags, forcibly keeps your stuff in the crappy MS cloud drive for which there's no Linux GUI client.

You can't even put the taskbar on the left edge where it belongs.

Worse than Vista or Win ME or even Win 8.x.

I moved all my emergency Windows partitions to Win10 IoT LTSC. Quite unbloated, proper local accounts, no Store, no Onedrive, no Modern apps at all. It's what Win10 should have been.

And it's getting updates until 2032.

So, Windhawk looks fun but I don't need it.

Hard_Space•35m ago
I moved all my LAN machines to IoT LTSC 2021 a year ago. Though I don’t regret it, be aware that update delay limits are the same as other Windows OS versions; that useful things like WSL2 will need installing from the app store to get the systemd version, and you’ll need to install the Windows app store from an enthusiast repo on Github; that Windows major version number is a fair way behind, affecting max Docker dated releases and same for many other frameworks; etc. It’s not that I meet a new limit every day, but certainly every few weeks.
robmccoll•1h ago
If you want tweaks that are a little more first party, there's always PowerToys https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/
jeremycarter•1h ago
There are genuinely some great power toys available.
timpera•25m ago
Definitely! I couldn't live without the "Quick Accent" PowerToys to quickly add accents that don't exist on my keyboard, I use it hundreds of times a day.
raincole•12m ago
I feel like it's for a totally different purpose though. The thing mentioned in this article seems to aim for changing how Windows' windows management and taskbar work completely.
robmccoll•1h ago
Speaking of modding desktop environments, has anyone figured out how to get back the old border radius in macOS Tahoe?
operator-name•1h ago
I’ve been using WindHawk for a bit, and my favourite mods have been:

- Slick Window Arrangement (better window snapping): https://windhawk.net/mods/slick-window-arrangement

- Better file sizes in Explorer details: https://windhawk.net/mods/explorer-details-better-file-sizes

fifticon•41m ago
file sizes in explorer is my pet peeve, it should be a builtin. When I am coding and making small projects, I want to see the bytes. I hate that everything is shown as "1 or 2 k". and it is a hazzle to get access to and install of the mods that show bytes column. It should just be an extra column available by default 'Byte Size'.
RGamma•27m ago
Or automatic column width. Or even setting the same column widths for all folders (try it, it's tough without 3rd party tools). Or the UI hangs with network folders. Or the search that never finds anything. I could go on...
blindstitch•40m ago
By the time I stopped using windows 10 on my daily driver last year I had 6 tweak apps always running to smooth over the endless papercuts. Now that I'm on KDE I don't have to run anything, it's all doable via stock control panels.
reddalo•19m ago
Me too. I'm on Linux Mint now and I love how simple, fast but also customizable it is.

If it's not for some specific games or programs, I don't see a single reason to still use Windows in 2026.

xtiansimon•37m ago
The only tweak I’d be willing to venture over a janky rope bridge for is a tiling window that doesn’t focus-steal.
mschuster91•36m ago
> Windhawk makes me think about the future of Windows, too. Microsoft is talking about a “Windows Baseline Security Mode” that PCs will be in by default, only letting properly signed software run and forcing apps to ask for your permission when they access your files, webcam, microphone, and other resources. According to Microsoft, this will only be a default — you can choose to opt out.

Yeah, just as I can "choose" to root my Android phone. I can do that, yes, but the result will be that Netflix, banking apps and most games refuse to even start.

stuffoverflow•24m ago
I recently had the idea of somehow integrating Everything's folder size index to explorer and after failing to do it with claude code, I found out that Windhawk + Better file sizes does just that. I would have expected at least some performance degradation but in fact it was the opposite and made it feel much snappier. A huge QoL improvement to explorer that I've now installed to all my Windows PCs. Note that you need the alpha version (1.5) of Everything for best performance.
gus_massa•6m ago
Somewhat related:

A long time ago, I used "7+ Taskbar Tweaker" that added a lot of nice things to Windows 7, like reordering the tasks in the taskbar. Now I'm remembering that the best feature was to ungroup the windows of the same task, that was super nice to edit two documents in Word

It used a lot of magic, probably overwriting dll calls in the kernel of Windows. It looks like it only partially support Windows 11 https://ramensoftware.com/7-taskbar-tweaker

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