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Former FBI Director Robert Mueller Has Died

https://apnews.com/article/robert-mueller-fbi-director-trump-russia-investigation-7aca939dc25d4652815376f73e0f9aaf
49•WarOnPrivacy•1h ago

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hackyhacky•44m ago
Donald Trump's reaction, on Truth Social this afternoon, to Mueller's passing:

“Robert Mueller just died. Good, I’m glad he’s dead. He can no longer hurt innocent people!” [1]

What a great guy.

[1] https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1162683345353...

wds•37m ago
If you were to have said this about Charlie Kirk, or inevitably Trump himself when it happens, you'd be treated like you had killed them yourself.
bayarearefugee•30m ago
Many people literally lost their jobs for saying much kinder things about Kirk.
plagiarist•12m ago
And for saying less kind things, but by directly quoting the deceased.
mindslight•28m ago
The fascists' only use for high minded ideals is merely as another type of memetic attack to influence people who might not be paying a lot of attention to their actions. For those in the currently-designated ingroup, the hypocrisy is the point.
zmk5•37m ago
Didn’t he find no connections for Russiagate? Why is he so mad at him?
cco•32m ago
You mistook William Barr's partisan "summary" for the conclusion of Mueller's investigation.
spiderfarmer•23m ago
The full, unredacted report has never been released to the general public.

The Trump White House asserted a “protective” claim of executive privilege over the redacted portions and underlying materials, which helped prevent Congress from obtaining the fully unredacted report, though this did not block release of the already‑redacted public version.

In other words, the criminals in charge prefer to work in the dark.

mulletbum•22m ago
The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the Department of Justice. Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.

It absolutely said Trump was connected to Russiagate and very much broke the law, Mueller was forced to shut down the investigation.

WarmWash•7m ago
We'll never know for sure, but the most likely scenario is that Trump did not collude with Russia, but also did not impede them or create any friction for them trying to get him elected.

Russia wanted Trump to win, because they understood him as deeply destabilizing.

SecretDreams•30m ago
Quite the classy take... I believe many people lost their jobs expressing an opinion like this after Charlie Kirk died.

Edit: I am sadly expecting some brigading on this thread.

koolba•26m ago
There’s a clear distinction when the subject is murdered versus dying of natural causes. One is implicitly encouraging similar behavior. The other is simply being a dick.
SecretDreams•15m ago
Celebrating the act of murder is the distinction. There is no distinction here between someone gloating that CK is dead or someone gloating that RM is dead.
krapp•12m ago
Which is weird because the right explicitly called for violence against the left and transgender people in response but nothing ever happened to any of them.
skeeter2020•11m ago
no denying your dick conclusion, but the former doesn't have to hold. You can like the outcome without supporting the mechanism. In fact,t here's an entire school of thought around ends vs. means.

But let's not get distracted here: unbelievable that anyone famous, let alone the president of the United States, would publicly promote such disgusting statements. Combined with his WH comments in front of the Japanese PM... I guess to a narcissistic (and frankly, just plain dumb) bully punching down feels like a big win...

stackbutterflow•23m ago
Trump supporters and voters will have to live with the fact that they enabled this for the rest of their life. I do not envy them. Especially those that will snap out of it at some point.
SecretDreams•13m ago
I think only a small percentage might ever feel remorse or empathy regarding how their voting choices shaped world outcomes thereafter. For those that ever do regret it, I think giving them a path to redemption is the only way the world will ever heal. For those incapable of having those feelings.. well, I can hope karma is real.
mindslight•10m ago
That was true after 2016, and plenty of them did. The difficulty is that Grump was able to attract a whole bunch of new scumbags - from his destructive politicization of Covid, the surveillance industry seeing a more direct route to become an inescapable part of the government, the growing performative chest-thumping "manosphere" etc. At this point I don't see much shame on the horizon.
leptons•18m ago
One guy spent 37 days in jail for posting trump's own words "We have to get over it" (about a school shooting that happened 2 years prior to Kirk's death)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlXBqxOmYhA

rocketpastsix•12m ago
"rules for thee but not for me". People who said _anything_ they deemed disrespected after Kirk died was basically crucified but when it's against someone they deem an enemy they dont care at all.
k8sToGo•28m ago
Isn't he rage baiting? Now everyone talks about him again. Perfect for a narcissist.
spiderfarmer•26m ago
Stop seeking ulterior motives. He's just an evil person.
DiabloD3•14m ago
Por qué no los dos?
spiderfarmer•4m ago
Claro
KennyBlanken•9m ago
His social media posts are very specifically designed to distract and pack the news cycle full of garbage, drowning out what actually matters. His entire life, his main defense to anything has been to attack and distract.

His posting style is also very typical of facist governments.

His approval rating is the worst of any president since WW2, including his first term, which was the previous 'record holder.' The Iran war is deeply unpopular with the American people, the skyrocketing gas and diesel prices are infuriating many. He's desperate to shift attention.

krapp•6m ago
I don't think they're "very specifically designed" to do that, I think that's just how he is, raw and unfilterd. He was a shitposter on Twitter too, that's why he was banned.
spiderfarmer•27m ago
I vehemently dislike everyone who still supports him.
davesque•22m ago
I believe technically this means I'm free to crack a bottle of champagne when Trump dies and incur no negative karma at all!
seydor•18m ago
This is literally against TruthSocial's terms of use. If i was TS, i would suspend his account just to watch him fume.
DANmode•15m ago
Donald Trump is the majority owner of Truth Social.
tombert•12m ago
I think that's kind of the joke? Yes, it is his private social media site, and he doesn't even follow his own TOS.
tombert•12m ago
Classy. I'm so glad that half of America thought that this tactless felon who can't even speak a complete sentence would make a great president.

If this is just ok now, can I say something like "I'm glad Donald Trump was shot. He's a colossal douchebag"?

krapp•7m ago
It's always morally correct to celebrate the death of evil men.
LocalH•8m ago
Rules for thee and not for me

His entire MO

embedding-shape•41m ago
> His 448-page report released in April 2019 identified substantial contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia but did not allege a criminal conspiracy. Mueller laid out damaging details about Trump’s efforts to seize control of the investigation, and even shut it down, though he declined to decide whether Trump had broken the law, in part because of department policy barring the indictment of a sitting president.

It still boggles my mind that Trump was even allowed to run for president again, when he publicly and very evidently did whatever he could to try to stop the investigation of himself. In what world does it serve democracy well to let people like that even be candidates or involved in politics at all?

mpalmer•39m ago
Your question would seem to be self-answering.
SecretDreams•28m ago
> In what world does it serve democracy well to let people like that even be candidates or involved in politics at all?

In a world where the population has been systematically trained to vote against their best interests.

bayarearefugee•23m ago
> In what world does it serve democracy well to let people like that even be candidates or involved in politics at all?

You are assuming that Trump's supporters care about the continuation of democracy, which is pretty clearly often not the case.

The only person who really had the means to put an end to Trump politically after his first term was Joe Biden, and people should absolutely never forgive him for his failure on that front.

jimkleiber•19m ago
I think when we say that an executive is the only one to put an end to another executive in power, we overlook how the problem might be that the parties have deadlocked Congress and the legislative branch is one to take power back from the executive branch.
the_gastropod•12m ago
Aaaaaabsolutely not. The president should have virtually no say in who is allowed or not allowed to run an election against them.

All but 7 Republicans in the Senate voted he was not guilty in his impeachment trial. They were gifted the opportunity to do the right thing, and they unquestionably failed.

mullingitover•20m ago
> In what world does it serve democracy

It's a feature.

All the richest sociopaths in SV have latched onto the meme that democracy and (their) freedom (to do whatever they want to the lower classes) aren't compatible, and these people bought control of the algorithms that are currently brainwashing anyone within eyeshot of a screen.

plagiarist•10m ago
I sure wish anyone other than a handful of Congress could become interested in serving democracy rather than filling their pockets.

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