Plane and ground vehicle collide at New York's LaGuardia airport halting flights

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy01g522ww4o

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spwa4•45m ago

According to other news sources, the pilots lost their lives here, too.

azalemeth•37m ago

The entire cockpit, front toilet and galley area, and probably a front row seat have all been utterly destroyed. Unfortunately I'd be amazed if the death toll stays at two.

weird-eye-issue•42m ago

How did it end up like that with the nose up: what is holding it up?

cschmatzler•40m ago

Front fell off, people deplaned (while still horizontal) which shifted the balance backwards. It’s sitting on the rear bulkhead,

weird-eye-issue•36m ago

I guess there is more weight in the relatively small section of the front that came off than I expected

Reason077•38m ago

Gravity. The aircraft is heavier at the back, where the engines are. With the nose severely damaged/missing, the centre of gravity has shifted aft, so what’s left of the nose is sticking up in the air.

bilekas•37m ago

That's a huge amount of damage even at 24mph. It's crazy how that could happen though. Will be interesting to see the full report.

whycome•20m ago

Very unlikely it was 24mph…The entire cockpit is gone.

(Though some of the major damage may have happened while deplaning the passengers)

Ekaros•13m ago

On other hand planes are really not designed to be crashed into things. Only for limited impacts. So we might not have right comparison for relatively thin and aimed to be light structure being impacted by bulkier object.

hiddendoom45•15m ago

It looks like that is based on the last recorded speed from flightradar24[1] which was 21kts(24mph). The previous data points were 11kts, and 58 kts(the last point before the track deviates off the runway). I do think it is likely that the collision occurred at a speed faster than 24mph.

[1] https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ac8646#3ede6c39

mcbain•36m ago

https://www.avherald.com/h?article=536bb98e

> Captain and first officer are reported to have died in the accident, two fire fighters on board of the truck received serious injuries, 13 passengers received injuries.

xyst•34m ago

Yet another blow to the confidence of flying in this country.

trvz•18m ago

More accurately, the risk has increased by at least one order of magnitude, but the confidence of the public has largely stayed the same.

twalichiewicz•33m ago

Was curious if ground vehicles at airports also use transponders to communicate position to the radio tower, and it turns out the FAA put out a report last year on potential solutions to avoid this exact situation:

https://www.faa.gov/airports/airport_safety/certalerts/part_...

haunter•32m ago

I saw the first post about this on /r/flying and /r/aviation 5 hours ago and legacy media is only started reporting it in the last hour or so

whycome•23m ago

And so much of the legacy media info is wrong. It’s strange because a lot of the primary sources are public.

This is a good overview so far:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8vokLcNNGCM

tchalla•20m ago

I have seen a lot of first posts on social media which have been wrong

metalman•23m ago

It should be noted that aircraft and all other vehicle and personel movements on an airport are controlled from the airtraffic control tower by air traffic controllers or directly by individual flaggers, as directed from the tower. Or at least thats the way it is supposed to work, and of course the operation at a place like LaGuardia is more complex, and will have specialists and multiple zones. What will put an extra edge on this is the whole ICE thing, and airport chaos pulling the roof down.

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