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Study: 'Security Fatigue' May Weaken Digital Defenses

https://www.albany.edu/news-center/news/2026-study-security-fatigue-may-weaken-digital-defenses
43•giuliomagnifico•1h ago

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dijit•51m ago
thats part of why NIST updated their password rotation recommendations from 90 days to indefinite: people pay lip service to security if it is too inconvenient. you have to try to meet people where they are.

Preaching is not a strong motivator for long.

carefree-bob•44m ago
It's not just about "convenience", it is hard for the human mind to remember a truly random password. You can try all the mnemonic tricks you want but at the end of the day it requires a lot of time and repetition before entering the password is effortless. So what people do is create a stream of derivable passwords. For example, I can think of a phrase "I love beach balls bouncing on the ocean!" and then make a password "ilBBbotocean!" and when it comes time to change that password, I'll just add a number "ilBBbotocean!1". Studies have shown this is what people do. But it is easy for attackers to also derive these passwords once one password in the chain has been compromised.

The effect of that is that by requiring frequent rotation, the organization is effectively training their users to have a single permanent password and to never change it, even after a compromise. That's extremely harmful. At least with permanent passwords that are force rotated after they show up in database or there has been an incident, you have a much higher percentage of compliance with making new passwords, and the organization is safer because everyone isn't using passwords derived from the previous password.

mysteria•36m ago
I remember a case where a company decided to assign employees random 16 character passwords with symbols and rotated them every 90 days or so. They were unchangeable and the idea was that everyone would be forced to use a secure password that changed regularly.

You can probably guess what happened, and that was that no one remembered their passwords and people wrote it down on their pads or sticky notes instead.

GoblinSlayer•6m ago
Also "app passwords". Not just change, you can't even append text to it.
bluGill•1m ago
Writing down a password is a great option. However you need to keep that paper in a secure location. Put it in your wallet and treat it like a $100 bill - don't paste it to a monitor or under the keyboard.

A password manager is better for most things, but you need to unlock the password manager somehow.

compiler-guy•46m ago
I have seen this phenomenon especially at a couple of FAANGs over the past couple of years. Things are getting locked down so much, and so many special permissions are required that now people ask for permissions to systems or procedures preemptively. Because by the time they know if they will need it or not, it's too late.

And no one in the security business seems to consider the overall burden of yet another step. Each of which is simple in by itself, but cumulatively they are a giant hassle, and so people look for workarounds.

baby_souffle•34m ago
> And no one in the security business seems to consider the overall burden of yet another step. Each of which is simple in by itself, but cumulatively they are a giant hassle, and so people look for workarounds.

This is a tale as old as time. At a prior gig, IT took away touch ID for ... $reasons. ~40% of the engineering team was already big into mechanical keyboards so it only took one person to "just FYI, VIA allows you to program macros". Is it _as bad_ as password on a sticky note? Not quite but I can't imagine that touch ID was _more_ of a threat.

sam_lowry_•22m ago
A big use case for Yubikeys is the ability to emulate a keyboard and produce a string of chars on touch.
JasperNoboxdev•15m ago
Curious, why remove Touch ID? Been moving everything into it seems like a really good mix of convenience + security (especially if the alternative is copying your key into AI :) )
whynotmaybe•29m ago
Not really new. A long time ago I had to wait 2 months to have access to a shared folder on a development server.

It became so prevalent that whenever we were planning anything, if a task had to be done by someone outside of our team, we added 20 days.

Security through eternity I guess ?

SAI_Peregrinus•3m ago
I call this sort of thing a self-DoS. If the system is unusable enough, it's indistinguishable from a DoS attack. This sort of sabotage isn't restricted to the security team, anything that makes the system unreliable enough from bad design through bad performance can have the same effects as an external attack.
gz5•36m ago
Absolutely. Easier said than done, but the best security is structural security - as near to invisible for end users as possible. This needs to be the goal, imo, even if not fully achievable.
ctxc•34m ago
Fairly obvious? Or isn't it that way for everyone?
Lerc•8m ago
Very obvious, but things that seem obvious might not actually be true. It is worth verifying.

Getting organisations to act on the obvious if it requires changing is harder than you might think. Having research to point to and saying you are doing the wrong thing and now you've been told is like turning the lights on and off really quickly and moaning "Liability" in a spooky voice.

donatj•33m ago
The level of lockdown in current years is wild. With our 2FA requirements and SSO, signing into GitHub every morning takes me something like eight clicks and a solid minute. Everything has gotten so locked down in recent years, people are working so hard to protect what are largely basic CRUD apps
jimbokun•6m ago
That’s fine as long as you are kept logged in or at least have an abbreviated login process after successfully authenticating in the morning.

CRUD apps can contain very sensitive data, so not sure how that’s relevant.

languagehacker•18m ago
Nice to see SUNY Albany on here!
onetimeusename•17m ago
I think security became part of compliance so security recommendations got detached from actual security. It seems like a lot of security recommendations are just busy work that justifies having a huge compliance industry. So an example of this might be security scanners for code where the output is not even useful. But using the tool, which searches for irrelevant findings, is required for compliance even if it basically does nothing for security.
general_reveal•16m ago
Just get off as many of these platform as you can. That’s about the only security that you’ll ever get. If you are still in the Matrix, listen the weirdos on here that take “don’t trust anything” seriously to the point of absurdity.

The Matrix was not fiction. Our modern internet is a system. You have to figure out how to live truly free from it, because it absolutely owns you.

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Revelation 13:16–17

“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark…”

nathan_compton•8m ago
The number of times I have to "single sign on" is truly maddening.

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