Who are these “many” mythical consumers who are using a product with ads and love the ads? I call bullshit. If you’re one of those people, please make yourself known. I’d like to ask some questions.
> The launches of Gemini 3 Pro, Opus 4.5, and GPT-5.2 Codex starting in late November 2025 changed the world
Holy moly, they did?! Quick, tell all the people starving, living in poverty, and in the middle of war that everything changed, the world is anew! What’s that? The world is just about the same? These are just some companies releasing some new LLM models? Ah, well. Can we please tone down the hyperbole, then?
sixhobbits•56m ago
can't say I 'loved' the ads, but they didn't bother me, I was interested in some of the companies, and I think $10/day in frontier-model use was an ambitious play that I personally know a lot of people benefited from (those who couldn't afford the $20/month plans or used it to supplement that and get an extra $300/month of usage).
re your second point, not sure if you're implying we should shut down HN becauase it's not worth talking about technological advances while poverty exists? I think most people who have used LLMs heavily agree that there was a step-change around November last year in terms of coding and computer use capability so I don't find it that hyperbolic.
latexr•48m ago
> can't say I 'loved' the ads, but (…)
What you’re saying is that you tolerated the ads and that you think they were an acceptable tradeoff for what you got in return. None of that is love. Loving the ads would mean you actively liked them and everything else being equal it would pain you if they went away.
> re your second point, not sure if you're implying we should shut down HN becauase (…)
What? No, of course not, I have no idea how you read that. I didn’t even mention HN.
> there was a step-change
That’s not “changing the world”, yeah? Can we agree to that? The wheel changed the world, agriculture changed the world, vaccines changed the world. A point release in a few LLMs, which are already outdated, definitely did not.
latexr•1h ago
Who are these “many” mythical consumers who are using a product with ads and love the ads? I call bullshit. If you’re one of those people, please make yourself known. I’d like to ask some questions.
> The launches of Gemini 3 Pro, Opus 4.5, and GPT-5.2 Codex starting in late November 2025 changed the world
Holy moly, they did?! Quick, tell all the people starving, living in poverty, and in the middle of war that everything changed, the world is anew! What’s that? The world is just about the same? These are just some companies releasing some new LLM models? Ah, well. Can we please tone down the hyperbole, then?
sixhobbits•56m ago
re your second point, not sure if you're implying we should shut down HN becauase it's not worth talking about technological advances while poverty exists? I think most people who have used LLMs heavily agree that there was a step-change around November last year in terms of coding and computer use capability so I don't find it that hyperbolic.
latexr•48m ago
What you’re saying is that you tolerated the ads and that you think they were an acceptable tradeoff for what you got in return. None of that is love. Loving the ads would mean you actively liked them and everything else being equal it would pain you if they went away.
> re your second point, not sure if you're implying we should shut down HN becauase (…)
What? No, of course not, I have no idea how you read that. I didn’t even mention HN.
> there was a step-change
That’s not “changing the world”, yeah? Can we agree to that? The wheel changed the world, agriculture changed the world, vaccines changed the world. A point release in a few LLMs, which are already outdated, definitely did not.