"Some schools are trying to attract male applicants by improving their sports programs; others invest more heavily in buying boys’ email addresses or give incentives to boys that they do not offer to girls — such as free stickers or baseball caps — for filling out information on the school website. Marketing materials are sometimes designed to speak specifically to young men. Heath Einstein, dean of admission of Texas Christian University in Fort Worth, recalls fondly a pamphlet known internally as the “bro-chure,” which featured shots of the football team, a rock climber and a male student shoving cake in his mouth. But the easiest way for many competitive schools to fix their gender ratios lies in the selection process, at which point admissions officers often informally privilege male applicants, a tendency that critics say amounts to affirmative action for men."
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/08/magazine/men-college-enro...
https://nypost.com/2025/09/11/us-news/schools-may-be-using-a...
Or how about this quote from a former admissions officer at Brandeis:
"We might admit the male student and wait-list the female student because of wanting to get closer to this sort of gender parity in terms of percentages in the class."
https://hechingerreport.org/an-unnoticed-result-of-the-decli...
Even adjusted for maternity and career entry/exit differences, the gender pay gap is still big and real. And while there is overlap and outliers, many more women-dominated industries are at lower pay segments (and with fewer benefits) than industries dominated by men.
Not that big however if you control for line of work (which industry), education, prior experience, and part-time vs. full-time employment.
https://www.nber.org/digest/apr13/do-women-avoid-salary-nego...
When women put on scuba gear or touch a arc welder their ovaries explode, killing them instantly.
55lbs also is well known to instantly disable women who do, in fact, labor in physical jobs.
The moment a child turns 7 and reaches that weight, women lose the ability to move the child at all, leading to tragic outcomes.
In all seriousness, just because a certain job is socialized a certain way, doesn't imply a fundamental lack of ability.
Being the only woman on a certain kind of male team sucks so so much more than having to put on scuba gear or lifting something heavy.
It's been cab and camera operated hydraulic lifts on wheelie bins for decades here.
The article is pretty clear, Women are getting most of the new jobs because they're in fields that Men largely don't try to enter (ex. Teaching).
Like whats the big initiative to increase the amount of Women with a Masters of Education? I've heard of a bunch for STEM but Men still dominate that field but that field is growing slower than other Women dominated ones so it's a non-sequitor.
Also there is certainly a world right now that says, oh your a man? Life is pretty grand to be a man - especially if you are a certain social economic class. There is some truth to that but thats the exception not the rule.
I don’t see how boys are not rewarded socially for academic achievement. If anything, men have lower physical attractiveness standards, so men are more rewarded than women for the same amount of academic achievement.
I suspected that within healthcare, women tend to occupy the lower-qualification roles more than the higher-qualification. This article [2] seems to confirm that: women are large majority in roles like nursing, hygienist, technologist but only occupy 44% of physician roles.
So... yeah sounds like despite women getting most new jobs, they're not exactly privileged, just lucky to be in a growing industry.
[1] https://nchstats.com/us-health-industry-jobs/#:~:text=manufa...
[2] https://www.hiringlab.org/2025/08/26/august-labor-market-upd...
i.e. Nursing jobs mostly go to women not because men can’t do them because “nurses aren’t men”, per our current cultural norms.
In other words, men in nursing are treated to the same indignities that women experience in most jobs?
Rather, I am pointing out that irony in the hope that men, dismayed by the treatment of men in certain professions, but find within themselves the empathy to appreciate what women go through and to adjust their behavior accordingly.
As a man who has worked in a predominantly female workplace, my experience has taught me that harassment is less about gender and more about power. Those in power will always feel entitled to behave poorly, regardless of gender.
I am sure that there's a lot of unreported mistreatment of anyone who represents a minority in a given profession.
Many men would rather not work and deal with the financial and social consequences of that than deal with the toxicity both in the workplace and later on if they talk about it.
I literally have no idea how you could have extracted that interpretation from my comment.
I also believe the number of female primary care physicians recently surpassed men. Or at least in Family Medicine, or something like that.
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>The lopsidedness was driven by huge growth in health care, where women hold nearly 80% of jobs. Over the past 12 months, health care alone added 390,000 jobs, more than in the economy overall,
How can a part add more than the total? Are pure increase figures being mixed up with increase-reduction in the article? And if so, how is gender balanced in those figures?
As in, balanced job creation + a shitton of mostly male tech workers fired = female growth.
If there's 100 men and 100 women employed and 100 women get fired then you have an equal number of "newly" employed people (0).
If there's 100 men and 50 working women and you fire 100 men and hire 50 women then 100% of the new jobs went to Women. Same is if you didn't fire anybody and just hired 50 women.
The net result is the same, but in the case in my example there is no barrier to men getting jobs.
In fact, if you start with a male dominated economy and it gets progressively balanced, you would see years of absolute female job creation, and that would not imply men are blocked from entering the workforce, just that the male dominated generations are exiting the market as they age and being replaced by a more balanced mix.
Present day men aren't a threat to a government's leadership, when they have weed, video games and porn at home, and testosterone levels are at their lowest levels ever.
And just to be clear, it really does not matter what ideology you will wrap your targets into.
Testosterone levels, when adjusted for BMI, are consistent. If you dont control for BMI they are declining, but thats a false comparison. Weed, video games and porn at home have nothing to do with testosterone.
Though present day men don't seem to be biting the "let's join the military and fight foreign wars for our corrupt baby-eating pedo leaders" nationalist propaganda, like they did generations ago.
Now you want to lead these males to die in war, while they are fully aware of what you are doing? At best you will get dysfunctional army fragging itself constantly. At worst you will trigger unrest because males would rather should they have an agency than be sacrificed as cattle.
Until the glowies stage a false flag attack on home soil to pin it on Iran.
Everybody immediately knew that this would make no sense for Ukraine to do that - i.e. Why would they just plant explosives to be found, when they would blow it up on spot if they really wanted?. Whole thing kind of fizzled out because nobody took the bait.
There will be more fires and at least one rich person will be eaten.
But all those Epstein pedophile seem pretty safe now.
Why should he get to moderate this forum and own several houses???
He didn't do shit.
Luckily the red flags are usually all over the website and walls of most places so you know not to even interview.
Yeah, you can totally fix the imbalance in the nursing sector by showing ads with a bunch of male nurses driving monster trucks into the ICU and crushing energy drink cans on patients' foreheads! Or have a cowboy ride his horse into the preschool, smoking a cigarette that he lights by dragging a match across his own thick stubble! This isn't a structural problem, it's just a question of marketing!
Insulting.
There's only so many lumberjacks needed in an economy. Sure you can depress the wages for awhile but there's still a limit.
So you need Men do to something else and the way you do that is with marketing (and also with Men being unemployed until they accept a nursing job).
1. For years, men have have had a much higher employment rate than women, e.g. 85 million men vs. 66 million women in the US in 2024 [1]. In other words, women are just catching up.
2. Women have a much higher rate of part-time jobs [1]. That is, a certain job would employ more women than men if women typically work part-time while men typically work full-time.
3. Employers are sometimes incentivized to hire women over men in case of equal qualification, e.g. [2]
4. Women earn better salaries than ever before, making it more attractive for them to apply to more jobs.
5. The statistics doesn't say anything about job migration: if I'm a woman who got a good job today but could get an even better one in half a year, will that be counted as two jobs given to a woman?
[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1378067/number-employed-...
You can't say this, unsupported by evidence, in Trump's America, where revanchist 'white guy DEI' is the ordering of the world.
> Women earn better salaries than ever before
... This is a clever way of avoiding saying that the gendered pay gap still exists, in favor of men, but has been narrowing.
What makes jobs that pay enough 'more attractive', generally, is rising fixed costs, like rent and energy, and stagnant wages.
I've slightly toned down that statement and added a reference.
> ... This is a clever way of avoiding saying that the gendered pay gap still exists, in favor of men, but has been narrowing.
The argument is not about the gender pay gap (which I don't doubt) however.
I do agree though that increased cost of life puts a bigger pressure on everyone to find sources of income.
The real issue is the opposite narrative. The idea that men broadly oppressed women across history, preventing them from participating in economic roles, and that modern outcomes are primarily the result of that dynamic being corrected.
There are a number of reasons at play here why that premise doesn’t make much sense (without further context). Here are just five points:
1. For most of history, labor was dictated by physical constraints and survival needs. Work like hunting, land clearing, construction, and early farming depended heavily on upper body strength and endurance, which skewed participation toward men. That’s a division of labor shaped by biology and environment, not a simple story of exclusion. As technology advanced, much of that physicality became unnecessary, which is a major driver of why participation has equalized in modern roles.
2. Women’s roles were not an absence from work, but a concentration in different forms of labor. Childbearing, childcare, food preparation, and household production were essential to survival, even if they don’t show up cleanly in modern employment statistics.
3. Many of the institutions we associate with modern economic life, including formalized science, engineering, and large-scale industry, were disproportionately created and originated in contexts where men were the primary participants. That’s not a claim about superiority, but it does mean the structure of what we now recognize as “work” and “progress” was heavily shaped by that historical imbalance.
4. The concept of a formal job market is relatively recent. In pre-industrial societies, most people, including men, were not participating in anything resembling today’s labor market. Applying modern employment categories backward creates a distorted picture of inclusion and exclusion.
5. Modern workforce participation is strongly driven by changes in technology and incentives. As physical constraints decreased and the returns to education and careers increased, more women entered and competed in the workforce. That shift is not well explained by a single narrative of oppression being lifted, but by broader structural changes.
- teaching: unruly kids. Bully’s get protected and those who stand up get punished. There’s some level of societal distrust of men around children not their own.
- social work: you’re exposed to some of the worst most horrific side of society constantly for peanut pay. You’re constantly in a position where you want to help people, but are constrained by things far outside your power.
Yeah I don’t care how “masculine” you try to frame them, just not interested.
So... seems like gender _does_ have something to do with that? Maybe just maybe more women gravitate towards these roles because these roles are associated with traditionally-feminine values (care, empathy, nurture)?
Maybe you're "just not interested" because as a man, you've been educated with traditionally-masculine values (strength? protection? power?), and if you had grown up in an environment where these roles are associated to these values, you'd be potentially-interested in them despite their obvious downsides
If we want men to take up certain roles, we need to pay more. That's the simplicity of capitalism and free markets. We bend ourselves into knots trying to find clever and (maybe) cheaper solutions to thorny problems.
Most job interviews are theater nowadays. It's about conformity, performative culture fitting, agreeableness (read, willing to slave away without complaining).
On average, women tend to better suited for such processes. Along with immigrant groups.
This is quite the claim, and I would understand anyone taking deep offence by it.
Can you substantiate it?
For more on this, I recommend Cynical Theories[0] by Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay.
[0]: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53052177-cynical-theorie...
What about DEI rejects reality?
How have men /not/ been the clear benefactors of gender for effectively all of history, which negatively impacts women in the workplace today?
Human rights is about equality, and DEI achieves that through pulling up the mistreated to reach parity, no? Are you saying “it’s not equality unless everyone is treated equal”? (IE building a wheel chair ramp is not equality, because we’re treating disabled people different)
You'd have to read some of Lyotard's or Foucault's work to understand the roots of this. The idea is that all knowledge is shaped by language, power structures, and cultural context. This is where we get the idea that there isn't "the truth", but that instead there is "my truth".
> Human rights is about equality, and DEI achieves that through pulling up the mistreated to reach parity, no?
Equality is an overloaded term here, which is also a device prevalent in this ideology. Similarly, the term "normal" is taken to mean either statistically common or morally acceptable or both, depending on the argument and who's making it. That's where we get the idea of the problematics of heteronormativity, for example.
It is of course debatable (and has been hotly debated for decades) what qualifies as "mistreated", and to what quantity. As is what counts as "pulling up" versus paradoxical discrimination.
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I'm sorry, but I can't boil down decades of philosophy into a neat paragraph for you.
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> Over the past 12 months, health care alone added 390,000 jobs, more than in the economy overall, making up for job losses elsewhere.
The article and journalism research should have been about the absurdity of this number. If there has been a 10% increase in the total number of nurses in a single year in the USA, either there is an on-going health crisis to be covered; or you know, the numbers are just garbage.
It seems unlikely that the success of women in STEM was based on making STEM more feminine, and helping women understand that they can have STEM roles and still stay feminine. It seems more plausible that affirmative action, privileged opportunities, exclusive spaces, and preferential hiring practices had more to do in making women in STEM successful than words about femininity and masculinity.
Dang's dad is a greedy landlord, and owns entire buildings, collecting rent from several tenants.
Should we kill these fools and take their houses?
We could!
wongarsu•1h ago
This is also true for an entirely different reason: all three of these fields would benefit hugely from having more balanced gender ratios
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Larrikin•57m ago
What happened was unqualified people stopped getting jobs and found groups of people to blame it on.
yakshaving_jgt•1h ago
So, no, not really.
malfist•46m ago
Tell me, exactly, why does the study of queer people mean diversity and inclusion is bad?
Not even going to touch your idea that colorblind racism isn't racism.
yakshaving_jgt•38m ago
Read this first, and then come back to me: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53052177-cynical-theorie...
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