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A Boy That Cried Mythos: Verification Is Collapsing Trust in Anthropic

https://www.flyingpenguin.com/the-boy-that-cried-mythos-verification-is-collapsing-trust-in-anthropic/
29•taejavu•1h ago

Comments

avalys•28m ago
Am I supposed to know what a “system card” is?
velcrovan•21m ago
Yes
eichin•18m ago
https://www.anthropic.com/system-cards generally, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47679406 more specifically (I'm guessing the article didn't link directly because it's an unreleased model and there are only preview versions maybe, given all the cdn links?)
solenoid0937•12m ago
"Sonnet sees the same two “obvious” bugs. It just cannot close the exploitation step. Mythos’s entire frontier advantage over the prior model is therefore bupkis."

What a bizarre conclusion. It "just" cannot close the exploitation step? "Just?"

Developing the working exploit is the hard part, not finding the bugs.

I wonder if these skeptics will publicly walk back their statements if Mythos turns out to be legit.

vmaurin•7m ago
I wonder if these fanboys will publicly walk back their statements if Mythos turns out to BS. Remember, in French, mythos is short for mythomanes that means "pathological liars"
spectraldrift•6m ago
This author appears to be a political commentator, most of the posts are highly opinionated editorials with nothing to do with technology. I am not sure if this is a reputable source or why all of the posts are labeled as "security" when they discuss unrelated topics.
baq•5m ago
I wouldn’t be surprised if the glasswing thing comes with an NDA akin to what the NSA wants you to sign when you join. That would be the Anthropic-optimistic interpretation of the sound of crickets from participants - and ‘responsible disclosure’ would be an ok-ish reason for Anthropic itself to not publish what they found themselves alone.

If it’s indeed as bad as the article says it’s going to be a (yet another) PR disaster, but it won’t matter one bit as the whole industry is compute-constrained, not reputation-constrained. You’ll shout at clouds and them and their competitors and still be paying for tokens.

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