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To Protect and Swerve: NYPD Cop Has 547 Speeding Tickets

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2026/04/23/to-protect-and-swerve-nypd-cop-has-527-speeding-tickets-yet-remains-on-the-force
74•greedo•1h ago

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thatmf•1h ago
> James Giovansanti lives and works on Staten Island.

ya don't say

(sincerely, ex-resident)

nslsm•1h ago
Has he ever hit something or someone? If the answer is no, then speeding laws are too strict and must change.
trehalose•1h ago
If he hasn't, then why would he refuse to say so?
garciasn•1h ago
> If he hasn't, then why would he refuse to say so?

Because he doesn't need to nor should he respond to a blogger? We continually point out that no one should ever talk to the police, the same absolutely goes for the media, particularly when you're a civil servant.

rationalist•1h ago
When I go faster than usual, I always slow down around other traffic. So if the law accounted for that, that would be nice. It seems silly to be pulled over if you're the only one on the road.

However I can understand that slower speeds can reduce catastrophic results if a tire blows.

I suppose it's akin to wearing seatbelts: As long as you're driving reasonably around other traffic and only speeding when you're by yourself, then the law primarily is there to protect the one person.

ceejayoz•1h ago
> Among the questions he would not answer was: “While driving the RAM 1500, have you been involved in a collision with a car, pedestrian or cyclist?” (We can’t independently find that out because license plates are not in the city database of crashes for some reason.)
noja•1h ago
Nobody knows. He was driving too fast to get his plate.
OutOfHere•1h ago
I am of two minds about it. On one hand, speeding alone when done by a mature highly-attentive driver isn't really dangerous no matter the limit, because the driver has enough expertise to know what his personal limit ought to be. The residual risk is more from immature drivers, the mistakes of other cars, cyclists, and pedestrians.

I have been on both sides of it. I have been the speeder who can drive very safely, and much earlier than that I have been the one to get hit by a car on a street. If the car had been going faster, or if it had been an SUV or a truck, I could have been less than lucky.

I settle for a middle position, which is that the speed limit should be no less than 35 mph on most streets, with heavy mandated use of automated collision avoidance systems. Moreover, I think that all pedestrian collisions, no matter how small, must be investigated thoroughly, with a hard action taken to minimize such an incident. School zones and other low-speed zones are a complete moneygrubbing racket because we already use schoolbuses which have protections.

Bicyclists must be mandated to wear light-colored high-visibility clothing, reflective gear, and a helmet, otherwise their bicycle should be confiscated.

iso1631•59m ago
> Bicyclists must be mandated to wear light-colored high-visibility clothing, reflective gear, and a helmet, otherwise their bicycle should be confiscated.

The leading cause of death for car occupants is head injuries, I assume you believe that all car occupants must wear a helmet.

All cars needless to say need to be bright orange

Any infringement should have the car crushed.

piva00•51m ago
> I settle for a middle position, which is that the speed limit should be no less than 35 mph on most streets, with heavy mandated use of automated collision avoidance system.

Why does it need to be so contrived when there's empirical evidence from many other countries in the world about measures which do make traffic safer for everyone involved? Why can't the USA look at that and implement what has worked? It doesn't even need to do the heavy lifting, it's been done, just improve measures which have already saved countless lives in other countries...

Or don't and keep killing 30-50k people every year in traffic.

plorg•25m ago
What you are describing is a legislation of the attitude of the average careless driver in the United States. I should be able to drive however I want until or unless I kill someone, the car should be the thing that keeps me from killing people, and anyone who doesn't use the roadway like me should be responsible for preventing me from killing them.
mindslight•10m ago
Spot on, well said. Personally I think inattentive driving is a bigger problem than speeding, but by the time someone is justifying it by they themselves being exceptionally safe, they've lost the plot.

In my experience, the only thing that really feels too fast in a car is going faster than you've become used to driving.

And yeah, how someone talks about cyclists is always a tell.

eightysixfour•16m ago
Is your underlying assumption that cars should be have the highest priority as a method of transportation, everywhere? Do you live in a rural area or something?

> School zones and other low-speed zones are a complete moneygrubbing racket because we already use schoolbuses which have protections.

What does this even mean? Does every kid ride a bus where you are? Do your school buses have seat belts and crumple zones?

cmdoptesc•15m ago
> On one hand, speeding alone when done by a mature highly-attentive driver isn't really dangerous no matter the limit, because the driver has enough expertise to know what his personal limit ought to be. The residual risk is more from immature drivers, the mistakes of other cars, cyclists, and pedestrians.

The problem is the vast majority of drivers overestimate their skills and underestimate the risks. Many people are also emotional drivers and will drive faster when angry or stressed. A great combo.

> I settle for a middle position, which is that the speed limit should be no less than 35 mph on most streets, with heavy mandated use of automated collision avoidance systems.

So what are you going to do about all the millions of existing cars out there without collision avoidance systems?

Given all this, the easiest solution is for people to drive the speed limit, especially in urban areas with pedestrians and bicyclists.

If you really want to gas it, go to a racetrack or buy a motorcycle and donate your brain.

condensedcrab•1h ago
It's not so much whether someone has hit anyone - speeding laws exist for a good reason to protect other drivers, pedestrians, cyclists, etc. There's a good reason that school zones are 25 mph for survivability in the case of a car hitting a pedestrian (especially for small children).

There's certainly issues with speeding laws and enforcement, but at the end of the day the US is so car-centric that removing someone's license for dangerous driving can severely impact their ability to get to work, etc.

lasky•1h ago
No doubt police should not be above the law and we should call that out.

However this article reads more like hyperbolic slander.

john_strinlai•41m ago
which part is hyperbolic, and which part is slander?

(remember that a statement has to be false to be slander)

singleshot_•27m ago
It also can’t be written, or the defamation would be libel, not slander.
Teever•1h ago
The solution is pretty straight forward.

Fine should be scaled to your income and have an escalating multiplier for reoffense within the same category of offense with a cool down period of a few years if they don't break the law.

I've brought this up many times online and people usually reply with something like "lots of people who have no income on paper but are wealthy speed" and a recent solution that I've seen posted is to scale the fine to the value of the vehicle.

Quite often fines are a pretty limp and ineffective way of modulating an individual's behaviour which is ultimately a choice by society.

We can make a better choice there to induce the behaviour that we want from antisocial people.

Tade0•41m ago
> escalating multiplier for reoffense within the same category of offense with a cool down period of a few years if they don't break the law.

My country - Poland - implemented this part a couple of years ago. Specifically a reoffense in the same category within two years results in a higher tier fine - about twice the usual amount. Fines were also adjusted for inflation after over 20 years of being nominally the same.

The rate of cars passing me doing 180km/h+, so 40km/h+ above the local 140km/h limit, fell drastically.

Particularly speeding cars in poor condition (like dangling linkages etc.) vanished. Nobody wants a ticket that's worth more than the car.

toast0•17m ago
> a recent solution that I've seen posted is to scale the fine to the value of the vehicle.

Sweet. My vanagon has a license to speed... not on highways though, it can barely hit the speedlimit.

A_D_E_P_T•1h ago
> 527 since January 2022

That's more than two a week, every week!

iso1631•1h ago
> Since 2022, traffic cameras have caught his pickup truck blasting through school zones or running red lights more than 547 times in that one borough

In the UK speeding tickets get you 3 points (or more if you're really over like 50+ in a 30).

Get 12 points in a 3 year period and you are banned from driving.

I thought that the US had something similar for "moving violations" (rather than say parking).

Is the penalty for ignoring the law seriously just a fine (i.e. if you're rich you aren't affected)?

john_strinlai•48m ago
typically, tickets issued by cameras dont cause demerit points because they are unreliable at knowing who specifically is driving at the time of the ticket.

they want to avoid giving you points on your license just because your kid/spouse/friend/whatever was speeding.

if these tickets were issued via a cop, rather than a camera, they would be 4 points each.

MisterTea•43m ago
Traffic cameras identify the owner, the person who registered the vehicle, not the driver meaning there's no license to put points on. There is no points system (At least in NY) for registration to my knowledge.
nateguchi•37m ago
In the UK, the owner is liable for identifying the driver at the time of the incident. This is how it works with e.g. rental cars. If the owner doesn't identify the driver, they get the points
p_ing•34m ago
In the US, you have the right to face your accuser. Since that's not possible with a camera, photo-based enforcement becomes a non-moving violation.

You can still point the finger at someone else when you get the ticket in the mail. Or just put a bunch of question marks in reply as it is on the State to prove their case, not for you to snitch on your own bad driving habits.

At least that is how it works in the state I live in.

MiiMe19•16m ago
That sounds like guilty until proven innocent.
iso1631•10m ago
Not really, you are asked who was driving.

If you are driving:

You say "Me", then they give you the points

You lie, say it "Bob", then you're guilty of perverting the course of justice. They then write to Bob,

If Bob agrees, then he's also guilty of perverting the course of justice, but most of the time you'll both get away with it.

If Bob disagrees, then they look more into it.

If you refuse to answer then you're guilty of not saying who was driving the car, a completely separate offence to the original speeding one, and one which is typically more serious

In the US you can mow down a child, drive away, and despite people having your plates and giving them to the cops, they can't actually arrest you because it was only your car which was used to kill someone?

joebe89•33m ago
Worth noting that speeding past a school is also an aggravating factor in the UK for sentencing if you're required to go to court over speeding.
branon•1h ago
They went to the guy's house, workplace? Followed him and took pictures?

This article reads like a Kiwi Farms thread. Just saying. I'm not a fan of what they do, but that's what came to mind. And when people do undesirable things, documenting them for public awareness is important. But how deep is too deep when it comes to freelance investigative journalism of this type?

e: critically I'm _agreeing_ that the reporting is important, and I'm not passing judgement either way here, only making a comparison and posing a question

burkaman•45m ago
His workplace is a public governmental building, so that seems like standard journalistic practice. It is also normal and appropriate to visit his house to seek a comment when he didn't respond through other channels. It would have been irresponsible and unethical to not put in an effort to speak with him before publishing this article. And taking a photo of a government official in public is again very normal, and it's good that they confirmed the vehicle is actually used by the guy they're naming.

For investigative journalism, if it even qualifies as that, this is pretty shallow. It's good work but it's just some public data and a couple hours of work, not a deep invasive investigation. It also is not freelance, this is a staff reporter for a decades-old publication.

embedding-shape•45m ago
Yeah, if he wasn't a public servant, and he wasn't a police who is supposed to enforce the laws, then I'd agree with you. But he is (hopefully "was" at one point) a public servant, and supposed to enforce the law, so if he flagrantly breaks the law almost every single day, then it's in public interest to know who is he and what he does.
john_strinlai•39m ago
>But how deep is too deep when it comes to freelance investigative journalism of this type?

when the subject is a cop? no such thing.

newsy888•1h ago
Universal surveillance at its most terrifying
haritha-j•58m ago
I don't understand, doesn't NY have a points system for driving licenses? In most places you could speed at most half a dozen times before you lose your license.
arscan•54m ago
It does, but according to the article it doesn’t apply to tickets issued by camera.
ceejayoz•41m ago
Well, that, and cops.
voxadam•33m ago
Cops don't give tickets to other cops.
ceejayoz•23m ago
In NYC, cops' friends are also exempt.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/16/nyregion/mathew-bianchi-n...

diath•43m ago
From the article:

> State law classifies camera-based tickets as mere violations, and they don’t add any points to a driver’s record, even though exceeding the speed limit by 11 miles per hour is worth four points on a license — but only if the offender is caught by a cop instead of a camera. Just three of those tickets suspends a driver’s license, but Giovansanti can keep on driving.

haritha-j•39m ago
Ah. Well that sounds like the perfect system for a cop to exploit.
gerdesj•14m ago
Can't he be considered as the arresting cop, after all he has witnessed all the speeding offenses? Sounds like dereliction of duty at best 8)
tantalor•45m ago
What is the point of this article?

> Like all drivers in New York State, Giovansanti is immune to consequences as long as he pays the $50 tickets

So he's allowed to do this. Why are we talking about it?

embedding-shape•44m ago
Because he shouldn't be allowed to do that? Because police officers should be held to a higher standard than others? Because being immune to consequences isn't a thing anyone should be? Those are just the reasons I could think of in ten seconds, I'm sure others could come up with more.
ceejayoz•40m ago
NYPD policy should probably consider repeated reckless disregard for the law to be a discipline issue.
toast0•13m ago
If he paid the fine, I don't know that it's disregard for the law.

The laws says if you do this, you owe a fine. If you pay the fine, it's following the law.

EvanAnderson•39m ago
Setting aside any concerns about cops being examples, public servants, etc, I'm shocked the NYPD's insurance doesn't have a problem with it.

My wife worked for a County government agency in Ohio. Her job duties included driving. She was required to report all traffic citations or crashes, regardless of when they occurred (during or outside of work hours), to the County and sign an affidavit annually attesting to such reporting.

If she exceeded a threshold of violations in a year the County's insurer would refuse to cover her. Because her job duties included driving this was considered grounds for termination.

embedding-shape•32m ago
Life as a cop is extremely different than the typical citizen, at least in most countries where I've spoken to cops, which doesn't include the US though, but I'm sure the same applies there because points everywhere.
raybb•32m ago
That's absolutely horrifying...

Relatively small increases in speed dramatically increase the stopping distance and as such the danger of driving. Especially with a huge truck like that. That's why Amsterdam (with much more food traffic) has recently reduced speed limits a lot.

> At 30km/h, the stopping distance of a car is 13 metres. At 50km/h it’s more than double at 27 metres. That 20km/h reduction is the crucial difference between a pedestrian or cyclist surviving the impact of an accident – at 30km/h it’s estimated that 95 per cent of pedestrians would emerge relatively unscathed.

https://www.intertraffic.com/news/road-safety/amsterdam-30-s...

strongpigeon•16m ago
What you're saying is all true, but typically road design influence driving speed more than anything. Changing speed limits rarely has an impact on that (at least in the US).
xnx•30m ago
I guess I'm most surprised that there are any NYC cops who don't deface their plates: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/17/nyregion/license-plate-vi...
archonis•28m ago
Looks like they found the one cop on the force who doesn't obscure the license plate of their private vehicle.
BobBagwill•14m ago
If you can't arrest the human, arrest the vehicle. The vehicle is obviously guilty, and is not protected by the right to confront its accusers, which are also machines.

Of course, with the advent of AI-enhanced surveillance and "smart" cars, we have have to have a separate traffic court for machines.

Then snowflake SJW machine-huggers will demand a machine Bill of Rights ...

Nevermind. ;-)

robhlt•5m ago
The Dangerous Vehicle Abatement Program was meant to deal with drivers like this, but it was allowed to expire in 2023 after the NYC DOT failed to actually implement it.

The program allowed the DOT to make drivers with more than 15 speed camera or 5 red light camera tickets in a year to take a safe driving course or have their car siezed. The DOT only took action against a small fraction of eligible offenders however.

More: https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2023/09/22/analysis-dangerous-ve...

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