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Pentagon spending on drones jumps from $225M to $55B in one year

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-jumps-from-225m-55b-drones-cheap-attacks-overwhelm-us-defenses
50•anigbrowl•1h ago

Comments

tencentshill•1h ago
Reminder: The Trump family has direct involvement in drone companies

https://apnews.com/article/trump-sons-powerus-drone-intercep...

cyanydeez•1h ago
>Reminder: The Trump family

Do you really need to go past that. They're like a "trump" card for the grift economy.

blackjack_•43m ago
Yep. Unfortunately in 2026 if you look in the news at the US government spending and see a very big number, it is probably self-dealing / corruption to the Trump family.
jimt1234•31m ago
But Hunter Biden said "the big guy" in an email - that's the corruption we need to be talking about!!! /s
mring33621•1h ago
holy shit!
ranger_danger•1h ago
> Funding tied to the little-known Defense Autonomous Warfare Group spans procurement, research, training and sustainment

Someone really wanted to name a department DAWG.

andrewstuart•57m ago
Doesn’t seem anywhere near enough.

All future and present conflict is fundamentally based around drones.

neaden•52m ago
I'm not sure how true that is. Sure it's what we're seeing in Ukraine right now with both sides using them a lot, but my understanding is that has to due with the fact that neither side is able to get air superiority with conventional aircraft. The same reason Iran is using a lot of drones now. It doesn't seem like the US would be in a conflict where they don't have air superiority.

Now I would agree that the US military can still find uses for drones, and that many of the people it fights will have a large usage of drones, but I don't think it's fair to say all conflict will be based around them.

cco•37m ago
> The same reason Iran is using a lot of drones now. It doesn't seem like the US would be in a conflict where they don't have air superiority.

Hmmm, this sentence appears to be a paradox? Is the US not fighting Iran right now?

Iran has a very weak air force and the US claims air superiority, yet Iran is using a lot of drones.

I think your comment proves GP's point, regardless of traditional air power, drones will feature heavily in any conflict.

GerryAdamsSF•23m ago
A million suicide drones is far cheaper than 10,000 infantry.

Very soon, "good enough" robotic autonomous infantry will exist which will make soldiers in the 21st century look as outdated as cavalry.

jltsiren•19m ago
What we're seeing in Ukraine suggests that drones cannot win the war for you, but they are essential for not losing it. And what we saw in Iran was that US air superiority is no longer a given. While the US had conventional air superiority, it was unable to neutralize the threat from Iranian drones.
8note•10m ago
you can keep looking at iran as the example - the US is uneilling to boots on the ground because even with air superiority, the drones are too dangerous
rasz•46m ago
The whole selling point of drones is that they are _cheap_. Spending billions brings you back to missile territory.
scottyah•43m ago
Still seems to be cyber warfare and mass social engineering.
jMyles•35m ago
> All future and present conflict is fundamentally based around drones.

...all the more reason to reduce spending on them.

zethraeus•55m ago
And they bought three new drones!
Aboutplants•50m ago
The most surprising thing here is that the US was previously only spending $225 Million on drones when it’s been fully apparent for the past decade(s) that drones were the future of warfare.
l5870uoo9y•48m ago
Took a war to realize this.
kylehotchkiss•46m ago
two wars
readitalready•43m ago
Took getting their asses handed to them in a war to realize this.
scottyah•44m ago
It didn't make sense to physically stock up on them before. It was mostly research, prototyping, comms infrastructure, software for swarms, AI piloting, ground control, etc. The next phase of building factories and manufacturing tooling/capabilities is a little bit concerning.
GerryAdamsSF•27m ago
Simple DJI style drones employed en masse in Afghanistan would have been helpful for a variety of tasks.

I cannot see any reason, over than oversight and a lack of imagination, why something useful in Ukraine in 2022 was not feasible or useful in 2017 by the USA.

We already used drones quite handily well before that time frame but in a much more limited manner in a different form factor.

dijit•40m ago
I think the surprising thing to me here is that there is a generation of children afraid of a clear blue sky because it means drones can see them..

... and it only cost $225M.

(source: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2013/10/saddest-words-c...)

mc32•7m ago
I think we sorely miss people like Paul van Riper. I’m pretty confident he’d have seen their use and advocated for them years ago.
hnthrow0287345•45m ago
Misleading title: this article says it is seeking a budget increase, not that it's been approved

>The funding request, a dramatic surge from roughly $225 million a year earlier, signals a major shift in how the U.S. military plans to fight future wars, accelerating a move toward large numbers of lower-cost, AI-enabled systems.

The merits of this ask within this insane administration basically means nothing IMO. Hegseth could ask for cybernetic ponies with beer coolers and I wouldn't be surprised.

WarOnPrivacy•42m ago
> this article says it is seeking a budget increase,

True. An increase to $1.5T by the looks of it.

https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/politics/3882126-pentag...

johnea•43m ago
But, but... What about Tom Cruise... on the flight deck... with his bomber jacket!!!

This is... UNAMERICAN!!!

p.s. This comment is sarcasm. For the unmitigated reality, please refer to your 1950s "duck and cover" propaganda...

BugsJustFindMe•41m ago
It would cost less to provide free breakfast and lunch to all public school students in the US, but that might actually improve the country's future instead of blowing things up.
kybb4•29m ago
"Why does man have reason if he can only be influenced by violence?"
tptacek•25m ago
We spend drastically more money than this on education; it isn't even in the same ballpark. People get tripped up about this because the funding comes from different taxing bodies (most education funding is state and local) --- but all taxation is linked.

We also couldn't fully fund free school meals for this sum, this sum is an ambit claim by the administration not a budget, and a large component of this funding request is for capital expenditures, not ongoing operational expenditure. The (larger) school meal funding dollars would have to be paid regularly.

BugsJustFindMe•19m ago
Please don't compare the entirety of the US education system against an incremental fragment of military spending as though that isn't a completely bogus evaluation. We spend just as much on the war machine if not more.

We're talking about an incremental fragment of the US military budget. It's fair to compare it to an incremental fragment of public wellness that would cost less and have profound impact.

> and a large component of this funding request is for capital expenditures, not ongoing operational expenditure

Oh, of course. You're right. I forgot that drones have zero operational costs and that military spending will decrease next year instead of increasing again and again and again like always.

fontain•10m ago
School meal funding would not cost more than $55bn or even close to $55bn. California’s program, subtracting initial implementation cost, was close to $1bn to feed ~10% of U.S. public school students 2 free meals per day. $55bn couldn’t fund a free school meal program indefinitely but I am sure the ongoing costs of the drone program could, this $55bn isn’t a one time cost.
ljf•8m ago
The rough cost to provide free breakfast and lunch to all students in the US is $30b - so as the go says, less than $55b.
GerryAdamsSF•21m ago
US schools are some of the best funded in the world. The causative relationship of funding on student performance is not strong.

Social programs such as Medicare, SSI, etc dwarf the military budget.

analogpixel•4m ago
If we took all the money we spent on war for 2 years, and diverted it to buying $10k electric cars, we could buy everyone in America an electric car, remove our dependence on oil, and thus never need to fight wars for it ever again; let other countries fight it out for oil while we move on to bigger and better things.

or we could continue spending all of our money on wars to get oil, fall further and further behind, and be living like the Flintstons in a few years while all the other countries that actually invested in useful stuff forge forward.

rayiner•1m ago
[delayed]
tristanj•30m ago
A Chinese drone manufacturer [Poly Technologies] has disclosed a massive government order for almost a million lightweight kamikaze drones, to be delivered by 2026

https://defence-blog.com/china-places-massive-order-for-kami...

https://www.warquants.com/p/one-million-suicide-drones-with-...

Aboutplants•5m ago
My only hope is that as we flippantly give hundreds of billions of dollars to defense, at some point in the near future a few hundred billion dollars for actual infrastructure or education won’t seem like all that much.
carabiner•2m ago
Drones killing drones. No lives at stake any more. Like burning piles of money on the sidelines until one side runs out.

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