I still don't get how this works. My world image must be pretty off at this point if this kind of thing is possible. A tanker is big, expensive, and not exactly easy to misplace. And for a nation to be able to send this kind of expeditions it must be both dysfunctional enough to allow this, but competent enough to be able to mount it. And other countries allow it? Why? Again with the "expensive and hard to misplace".
OutOfHere•34m ago
What do you mean you don't "get how this works"? It's terrorist groups funded in Yemen by Iran. Why do people keep forgetting that Iran funds terrorists across the Middle East? Pretending to be naive doesn't fool anyone. It's retaliation for a US blockade of the strait of Hormuz, although Iran has its own blockade there as well. If this carries on, the US will probably take action against Yemen and Somalia.
mcphage•20m ago
> the US will probably take action against Yemen and Somalia
So we’re losing 1 war, and your solution is to start 2 more?
OutOfHere•13m ago
That's a complete mischaracterization, and just how much misinformation could you package in one comment. Firstly, there is no ongoing war with Iran; there is a state of ceasefire. Secondly, with Yemen and Somalia, it won't be wars, just counterterrorism strikes. The US has done these against Yemen a number of times in the recent past, and it has never qualified as a war.
afiori•9m ago
Naval blockades are an act of war even according to US own laws.
vel0city•6m ago
> Firstly, there is no ongoing war with Iran
Talk about mischaracterization. The head of the Department of ~~Defense~~War has called it a war many times. The President has called it a war many times. Members of Congress of both parties have called it a war many times. It's a war my dude.
SanjayMehta•11m ago
It's the neocon version of "you wanna supersize dat?"
afiori•8m ago
The US and its allies are likely the biggest sponsor of terrorism and genocide worldwide
toasty228•30m ago
All you need is a dude with a small boat, an rpg and some kind of short range radio really.
OutOfHere•26m ago
Many but not all tankers these days do have defensive equipment, e.g. jet sprays, but these probably can't stop too many boats, or if the tanker doesn't have such protection.
ceejayoz•20m ago
If I have a hose and the other guy has an RPG I’m probably not starting shit.
AnimalMuppet•12m ago
If you have a hose that you can fire from a fairly protected position and the guy with the RPG is completely exposed because he's trying to climb up the side of a tanker, yeah, I might.
See, the hijackers can't actually sail the ship. So they can't kill the crew, or at least can't kill very many of them.
It's very simple. "Pirates" use small arms and small boats.
The US navy uses helicopters and ship mounted canons.
Occasionally they double tap "drug smugglers" with missiles.
Or sink inadequately armed "enemy" ships with a torpedo, followed by a second one after 19 minutes.
The difference is minor between piracy and war crimes: "δυνατὰ δὲ οἱ προύχοντες πράσσουσι καὶ οἱ ἀσθενεῖς ξυγχωροῦσιν"
jeffbee•22m ago
The whole global just-in-time supply chain depended on at least the illusion of the freedom of the seas guaranteed by the United States, which the US unambiguously spoiled this year. Piracy never went away altogether but a multi-polar world where regional powers sanction piracy and provide the pirates with sophisticated weapons isn't going to underpin the same kind of global economy.
radu_floricica•44m ago
OutOfHere•34m ago
mcphage•20m ago
So we’re losing 1 war, and your solution is to start 2 more?
OutOfHere•13m ago
afiori•9m ago
vel0city•6m ago
Talk about mischaracterization. The head of the Department of ~~Defense~~War has called it a war many times. The President has called it a war many times. Members of Congress of both parties have called it a war many times. It's a war my dude.
SanjayMehta•11m ago
afiori•8m ago
toasty228•30m ago
OutOfHere•26m ago
ceejayoz•20m ago
AnimalMuppet•12m ago
See, the hijackers can't actually sail the ship. So they can't kill the crew, or at least can't kill very many of them.
tokai•5m ago
Its pretty dumb to assume that.
dgellow•26m ago
SanjayMehta•13m ago
The US navy uses helicopters and ship mounted canons.
Occasionally they double tap "drug smugglers" with missiles. Or sink inadequately armed "enemy" ships with a torpedo, followed by a second one after 19 minutes.
The difference is minor between piracy and war crimes: "δυνατὰ δὲ οἱ προύχοντες πράσσουσι καὶ οἱ ἀσθενεῖς ξυγχωροῦσιν"