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Declining America

https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2026/05/19/Declining-America
88•AndrewDucker•37m ago

Comments

LogicFailsMe•24m ago
Elections have consequences.
jmclnx•21m ago
yes and the results and actions taken after the Nov 6 US elections may undo some of the damage. But no other country will ever trust the foreign policy of the US no matter what happens.
sscaryterry•20m ago
This. Once bitten, twice shy
throwaway-blaze•19m ago
K. Wake me when they have the means to defend themselves. Until then they can distrust the foreign policy of the US but they'll be living with it.
smaudet•17m ago
Oh, don't worry, the way it's going other countries will be fast motivated to defend themselves from said foreign policy...or perish.
etchalon•15m ago
It's absolutely shocking how many people believe other countries lack the means to defend themselves.
EB-BarringtonII•11m ago
US protection can be valuable, but US dependence is dangerous.

The world is moving on.

rockskon•16m ago
Never say never.

Germany seems to have recovered quite a lot of trust following World War 2, to provide an extreme example of bad foreign policy.

iamtheworstdev•13m ago
they're also on the cusp of throwing it all away, again.
HerbManic•10m ago
It is wild seeing the elctorial maps of Germany and you can almost exactly recreate the East-West split. Decades later and it is coming back to haunt them.
guyzero•12m ago
Do you think the US is going to have Nuremberg trials? Do you think there will be a deep national reckoning about what happened?
kakacik•9m ago
Through selfless deeds, hard work and admitting their failures to the fullest, for generations till now. Somehow I don't see that happening easily with american ego
dyauspitr•14m ago
I don’t think November 6 is going to be a reprieve. They have rigged the system so much that I don’t think it’s actually possible for the Democrats to make a comeback.
billfor•5m ago
If they lose it will be because they don’t track unfavorabilty ratings for your democrats as much as they do the current admin. It’s not enough (for moderates) to just say you hate the other guy.
HerbManic•12m ago
There is the military saying "Once is an accident, twice is an attack", this is how a lot of folks see it.

I think it is deeper, that these actions were taken at the top and a sizable amount of the people sided with them, that sends the message that the US cannot be trusted long term, it has become cultural. I get that it isnt a majority of people but it is big enough that it cannot be ignored.

baggachipz•8m ago
> yes and the results and actions taken after the Nov 6 US elections may undo some of the damage

You're assuming that 1) the elections will actually occur on Nov 6, 2) the elections will be fair, and 3) that the winners of said elections would take action and actually enforce the rule of law.

I'm not confident in any of those.

HerbManic•2m ago
It will be interesting to see what happens. Many are hoping that there is a very strong turn out for the Democrat's so that any rigging cannot over come it, but this sounds like fan fiction to me. That said Trump hitting Iran may be the single biggest blunder of his political career, media influence can only go so far when there is a direct impact on all prices and potential stock availability in the coming months.

Hopefully a lot of the fears don't pan out but we won't know until it gets closer.

I'm not saying that there aren't better options but both major parties are complicit in how the system is organised. The US electoral system gets ever more distorted with every minor adjustment in the hopes of swinging various seats in their favour and now it just looks ridiculous.

cyanydeez•10m ago
no one thought the consequences would include giving 1.8 billion dollars of American taxes to the people who tried to violently overthrow the government and to those who are successfully leading a bloodless coupe.

Well, most people, obviously.

throwaway-blaze•20m ago
Nothing better than moral preening by our northern neighbors. "I won't engage with interesting people in a country whose leadership I don't like"...talk about cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

Also love he thinks his social media posts will cause him to be sent to a gulag at the border crossing.

Underphil•17m ago
Whether it would happen or not is immaterial. The perceived threat is enough. I've been here on a green card since 2016 and haven't left the country since his second term since I share the exact same fears.
nchmy•15m ago
People - Canadians included - have literally been sent to a gulag at the border crossing, for social media posts and otherwise. Can you really not see why that would cause someone to not want to enter?

Moreover, he literally said he continues to be a supporter of that org.

throwawaypath•10m ago
>for social media posts

That was fake news, didn't happen.

kesor•9m ago
People have been sent to the gulag by the Canadian government as well, not too long ago. Governments are disgusting.
fylo•8m ago
I believe the UK is doing a similar thing with regards to social media posts.
bediger4000•1m ago
Reads like he wasn't invited to an unconference on the UK.
dsr_•14m ago
Don't be ridiculous. The US operates gulags in other countries, so that they don't have to pretend to follow our own laws.
etchalon•13m ago
Plenty of people have had their social media posts result in extended detention by our border security.
cdrnsf•11m ago
People have already been harassed for social media posts and citizens have been murdered in broad daylight simply for observing law enforcement.
simonw•11m ago
> Also love he thinks his social media posts will cause him to be sent to a gulag at the border crossing.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/News/visas-news/a...

> Effective March 30, the Department of State will expand online presence review to include applicants in the following additional nonimmigrant visa classifications [...] To facilitate this vetting, all applicants for A-3, C-3 (if a domestic worker), G-5, H-3, H-4 dependents of H-3, K-1, K-2, K-3, Q, R-1, R-2, S, T, U, H-1B, H-4, F, M, and J nonimmigrant visas are instructed to adjust the privacy settings on all of their social media profiles to “public” or “open.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/trump-musk-f...

> A French scientist was denied entry to the US this month after immigration officers at an airport searched his phone and found messages in which he had expressed criticism of the Trump administration, said a French minister. [...]

> The same source said that messages discussing the Trump administration’s treatment of scientists had been found. The researcher was reportedly then accused of writings “that reflect hatred toward Trump and can be described as terrorism”.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/jun/15/austr...

> An Australian man who was detained upon arrival at Los Angeles airport and deported back to Melbourne says United States border officials told him it was due to his writing on pro-Palestine protests by university students.

throwawaypath•2m ago
>A French scientist was denied entry to the US this month after immigration officers at an airport searched his phone and found messages in which he had expressed criticism of the Trump administration

That was fake news.

“The French researcher in question was in possession of confidential information on his electronic device from Los Alamos National Laboratory — in violation of a nondisclosure agreement — something he admitted to taking without permission and attempted to conceal,”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/21/world/europe/us-france-sc...

andyjohnson0•5m ago
> "I won't engage with interesting people in a country whose leadership I don't like"

I dont know where you got that quote from, but it doesnt occur in the submitted blog post.

It seems to me that the important actual quote is:

"I’m Canadian and as a matter of principle feeling negative about visiting a neighboring country whose leader has repeatedly threatened our sovereignty and shown massive disrespect for our nationhood."

I live in Europe and I agree with the author's misgivings.

Felger•16m ago
Relativity is the key factor.

Europe is declining even faster.

siliconc0w•10m ago
EU equities outperformed US in 2025. The Iran war will probably shift this back to the US but launching a new poorly defined war (and arguably losing it) is also a pretty good indicator of decline.
smileson2•16m ago
Weird way to frame the hottest nation in the world
fuddle•15m ago
TIL a new word - "boosterism"
L-boog•11m ago
Weren't you fine taking money from the oligarchs for years? Why the change of heart? Employees working in overheated warehouses without bathroom breaks didn't bother you at all when the USD was flowing into your account.
kesor•10m ago
What a prick. I hate this guy, and I hate that guy, and I hate all those guys too. But I do love your organization, because you probably hate the same people I hate, so we're buddies.
ravenstine•9m ago
What is this doing on the HN homepage?
profsummergig•7m ago
Serious questions:

1) I use "socials" anonymously. Have anon accounts on X, IG, FB. If asked to disclose them at the border (am US citizen, but it's happening to them too), do I disclose the anon accounts?

2) Nothing too controversial in my "socials" (I'm careful), but there's still stuff there that could embarrass me (e.g. mocking or abusing people on X). What would happen if I scrubbed my socials before a trip? Would they be able to find out that I scrubbed, and then construe something about me?

3) Relatedly, is there a recommended way to scrub one's socials?

4) Is something like HN considered part of "socials"? I assume Reddit is. So HN must be too? I've had multiple accounts on HN over the years (been serially banned until I stopped leaving controversial comments). What am I expected to do in such an instance? Do I disclose all the HN accounts?

5) Relatedly, I have multiple X accounts (squatting on usernames). Do I disclose all the accounts?

yearesadpeople•6m ago
It would appear rage has well and truly been bated. My word.
ArchieScrivener•6m ago
Oh wow, more Anti-American rhetoric! It's almost like its 2004-2025 again.

Canada has been, and apparently no matter how far they fall from grace, will continue to be a European model country. They, like every EU country, simply finds a larger more powerful empire to parasite off of until they are able to become as powerful by recreating class-based servitude.

The USA needs to open a new frontier of cooperation with China and make deeper inroads with Brasil before completely cutting off Canada. Then we can incorporate their territories until the Maple flag is just another historic symbol of what Britain lost to us.

gortok•1m ago
The comments on this HN post nicely color the problem Tim points out, from the comments that assume the exceptionalism of the USA, to comments that say “stay in Canada”, to comments that call the post “moral preening”.

I grew up in a very conservative household, and until the tea party/Trumpian alliance would have called myself a small-l libertarian.

Now? I won’t vote republican for a whole host of reasons, not the least of which is that it rhymes with the worst parts of the political parties we destroyed in world wars.

There’s something new almost every day that should, in a sane culture, cause folks to abandon the Republican Party en masse. Today’s example? The 1.776 Billion “anti-weaponization” fund that is a slush fund for Trump and his allies, including folks that stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021. The grift of this administration is shocking, but the fact that rank-and-file conservatives aren’t abandoning it by the millions gives away the game. It isn’t about principles, it’s about one party winning, no matter what.

We used to fight for what’s right, but we have become the villain. Tim is right about the declination of America (realizing his title is a double-entendre), and I can’t help but wonder if there is even a line that Trump could cross to the modern “Republican” party.

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