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Nvidia RTX Spark

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/products/rtx-spark/
31•shenli3514•1h ago

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SilverElfin•49m ago
It all sounds good on paper. But I have trouble believing Windows can be a good platform for this. Microsoft has lost all trust after inserting ads into windows, slowly removing power user features, and exploiting every dark pattern they can. And for years, the ARM based Windows laptops have been useless due to app compatibility issues. Why would this change now? Is it priced to be a lot cheaper than Apple’s laptops? Or is this a niche product for AI developers basically?
try-working•42m ago
Hopefully MSFT would look at this as a do or die system, and go all in on improving the user and ownership experience. Will they? Not so sure.
jfim•37m ago
That's what they're working on, in theory, with Windows K2.
fhn•10m ago
I would never trust Microsoft. Their next drama is revoking Office 2019 perpetual licenses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRnno9VIZx0. It never ends with them because they know they have you by the balls.
__atx__•16m ago
The "gaming" take is a strange one indeed for an ARM platform. Hopefully they (Microsoft or Nvidia?) put some real effort into the translation layer. They claim modern AAA games, but it is possible they strongarmed the developers to make them an ARM build for a few select titles...
jqbd•49m ago
They made their own x86 CPU? Or was that part outsourced? Ok ARM MediaTek.
try-working•46m ago
ARM cpu made by MediaTek.
zamadatix•15m ago
But probably worth clarifying it's not a typical "MediaTek CPU" some might assume by that. It has Nvidia's customized ARM CPU implementation + their GPU.
boredatoms•46m ago
Is this just dgx spark, but a laptop?
pella•39m ago
yes, same chip

+ Windows

+ Screen

- ConnectX-7 Smart NIC

cyanydeez•37m ago
competitor is already on the market and is x86: AMD AI 395+

bechmarks with DGX arnt spectacular for NVIDIAs software and CUDA lead.

wouldnt count on this being a price/compute challenger. especially with overpriced VRAM.

xyzzy123•31m ago
Or like a m4 max? This thing has <300GB/s vs the max with 550GB/s

All those CUDA cores in the sparks but they're starved for memory bandwidth.

I am still waiting for NVidia to release a system that legit beats 3090 maxxing for the home gamer...

moondev•12m ago

  Spark:
  OS: Windows/Ubuntu
  Mbw: 300GB/s
  Cuda cores: 6000
  GPU accelerated containers: yes


  M5 max:
  OS: macOS
  Mbw: 600GB/s
  Cuda cores: 0
  GPU accelerated containers: no
SilverElfin•31m ago
Is CUDA really a lead for long? Aren’t all the latest competitive approaches avoiding all the standard software stacks and writing deeply customized software that is very directly tied to whatever hardware they use?

And is it really a way to lock in people? With AI coding tools, isn’t it trivial to write software on top of CUDA and rewrite it to target some other hardware?

porphyra•16m ago
Strix halo's 8060S gpu is very weak, and is roughly equivalent to a 4060 laptop GPU, whereas GB10's gpu is equivalent to a desktop 5070. For LLM throughput, tok/s is similar due to bottleneck by memory bandwidth, but the GB10 has 3x faster prefill. People have also been able to squeeze out much better performance on GB10 using NVFP4 and other improvements in the months after the DGX Spark launch, so don't be misled by early lackluster benchmarks. For the RTX Spark, which also targets gaming and creative applications, the 3x faster GPU is quite nice.
renoir•35m ago
So basically Cerebras style?
zmk5•33m ago
I really like this, but I think the reason Apple Silicon took off was that Apple sort of forced devs to support ARM. Not sure if Microsoft can do the same for Windows…
SilverElfin•21m ago
Some other relevant discussions and sources …

NVIDIA and Microsoft Reinvent Windows PCs for the Age of Personal AI

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48352705

NVIDIA DGX Station for Windows Puts a Trillion-Parameter AI Supercomputer on Every Enterprise Desk

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48352691

Introducing Surface Laptop Ultra: Made for world makers

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48352627

Introducing a powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by NVIDIA RTX Spark

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48352693

mastermage•18m ago
Is this finally Macbook Chip Efficiency coming to Windows or will it just be shittier compatibility for slightly better battery life?
timpera•13m ago
We'll need to wait for the benchmarks, but this looks great! Windows 11 ARM64 is already amazing, and if these really are an upgrade from the Qualcomm chips we're going to have even better laptops on the market.

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