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Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c93x0k194yno
86•reconnecting•1h ago

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baby_souffle•27m ago
30 whole minutes?! How generous.
aquir•25m ago
I mean I would want to do this when I do confidential stuff like HR and Payroll. I would be interested above what level are employees are exempt from this. I don't think Meta wants to train their AI on their own C-Level execs but who knows...it's Meta
polyterative•24m ago
Sick company environment.
epsteingpt•21m ago
But the opt outs will, of course, be tracked. Choose to do it and it will go on your performance review.
cucumber3732842•15m ago
If they give you shit for being opted out every day around lunchtime they would just find something else to give you shit about anyway.
p0w3n3d•2m ago
Opt outs lower your KPI by a fixed value
yabones•20m ago
The people who created this policy are almost certainly exempt from it.
fnordsensei•19m ago
Right.

Meta’s biggest culture problem is definitely “not enough masculine energy”.

igleria•19m ago
Surely they can't be serious?
dude250711•2m ago
It's part of meta-mating, we would not understand.
afavour•18m ago
And who knows who gets to see the tick against your name as "opted out".

I get that the money is good but holy hell I don't understand why anyone still works at Meta.

new_account_104•11m ago
Meta: Just as incompetent as Microsoft, but somehow more evil!
steve-atx-7600•17m ago
These meta articles make me think of how any tech company - even small startups - can so easily paint a picture of an individual or team performance with a frontier LLM. I use codex myself to remind me what I did over the last 6 months (look over JIRA, GitHub and my own notes) since I have to write a self evaluation. It always comes down to company culture to determine how this info will be used. Meta never struck me as a place I’d like to spend a lot of my life for culture reasons.
majorbugger•15m ago
The corporate overlords are becoming too benevolent these days! Why not monitor employees' thoughts in real time?
outside1234•13m ago
I suggest they opt out of the whole 24 hours
scandox•13m ago
O'Brien turning off the Telescreen.

"You can..."

"Yes...we are allowed that privilege"

skywal_l•3m ago
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever"
everdrive•13m ago
I don't work for Meta, but how many more years do I need to work in tech? I'm in my 40s and my kids are young. I've already set up 529s for them, and am paying for some expensive home upgrades. Maybe when that is finished and I've built up a buffer I can switch industries for the last 5-10 years of my working life. Curious if anyone here has any similar plans.
jryan49•9m ago
I've been thinking about it a lot. I've been looking into becoming an electrician for maybe like 6 years before I retire.
bluefirebrand•6m ago
I'm pretty much there right now too. I'm not quite 40, but I want out

Not sure what to do next, I know it probably won't pay as well, but damn I want out

Im thinking about getting certifications to become a drone pilot. Try and get on with a GIS firm to do aerial surveys for farm land or mining companies or something

inoffensivename•5m ago
In my early 40s here, FAANG for 20 years, definitely don't see myself working in tech for much longer.
fullshark•5m ago
My single minded focus is getting my finances in order so I don't need to work in this industry (financial independence) past 50. It's just getting worse and worse in terms of the open contempt for employees from the top down with no end in sight. Once you reach 50 it's just luck of the draw whether or not you are in the annual culling of the senior folks.

There's no excuse anymore for being ignorant of how this industry works, the mask has been off for years.

jordemort•10m ago
This is great, I hope the people at Meta suffer as much as possible while working for them. They should introduce mandatory eyeball sanders next.
crispyambulance•9m ago
It's always been hard to know the extent of how draconian tracking actually is (IT pros tend to not talk about it much).

In the US, there's the expectation that when you use an employer-provided device that any and all activity on it can be fully monitored/recorded and used against the employee for any reason. In practice, however, few people worry about reasonable amounts web-surfing, being on hacker-news or doing life-activities on their work machines. Oh, here I am on hacker-news when I should be working.

With AI, this changes significantly since the man can now employ a robot to categorize and finely scrutinize every little thing with the pretext of "training" (to take your job). We will soon have to brace ourselves for an absolute draconian level of tracking.

tamimio•6m ago
> employer-provided device that any and all activity on it can be fully monitored/recorded

And the location, yes, your physical location as well

p0w3n3d•2m ago
Doesn't visiting hacker news count as personal growth? Or am I supposed to grow professionally outside the work?
LucidLynx•9m ago
I have a serious question to anyone working at Meta and reading this: HOW can you still work at this company!?

Why don't you quit this very toxic company, and start working at another place or even on your own? I genuinely don't understand...

Let just Meta die!

SoftTalker•5m ago
$$$,$$$
Alifatisk•2m ago
> I genuinely don't understand...

Really? Its quite obvious to me. They get astonishing resume and salary. That is until they get fired or burned.

new_account_104•1m ago
You need to be more cruel if you actually want these people to quit.

Make them fear for their professional and personal reputations.

Make them embarassed to show their face or state their place of employment.

We need to treat these people like Nazis.

jryan49•9m ago
Could anything be more ironic, the employees that work to track every person in the world are now being tracked themselves :)
new_account_104•8m ago
Similar to the LLM hype, the point of this program is to demonstrate labor's fealty to capital.

The message is: Fuck you if you're a software developer. Your skills are irrelevant. You should be grateful that we haven't made conditions even worse.

lionkor•8m ago
Broken record here to announce that there are countries that have labor laws that protect employees, which you can take an example from or move to.
ProofHouse•5m ago
Working as a dev at Meta has become like working a call center. Zuck lost the plot.
new_account_104•3m ago
Why would they care about software developers when they're busy replacing them with AGI?
alexfoo•3m ago
Dave Eggers' novel _The Circle_ (2013) is looking more and more prophetic every day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Circle_(Eggers_novel)

xnorswap•1m ago
I hate it when companies use this kind of trick to get around legislation or privacy concerns.

"Employees are able to turn off tracking".

Sure, but there is a power imbalance, and employees will come to understand ( although never stated in any handbook ) that the rate at which they disable it will be taken into account in performance reviews.

Just like "unlimited PTO" is not a benefit, because employees self-regulate their use down to less than they'd get if they negotiated a fixed amount.

It's a twisted legal trick to get out of an obligation.

spicyusername•4m ago
I dream about it everyday.

I love building software, but I can't stand working in the industry.

It's such an unholy combination of bad corporate culture and questionable moral principals.

bdcravens•3m ago
I don't plan on leaving technology, but I am scaling up a side hustle as a hedge.
fontain•2m ago
As people in tech we live very expensive lives but if you are in a major city and own your own home and have worked for a decade or more you probably have a lot more opportunity to retire today than you might think. Even with children, life can be much less expensive by moving to a low cost of living area. Often in online discussions about FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) high income people will discuss needing many millions to retire, but you can retire on less.

Switching industries is a romantic idea but it is very difficult, especially going from the tech world with big money to the normal world with small money. You can still work to keep yourself busy but thinking about it as retirement will better help you plan. Going part time in tech is usually more sustainable than trying to switch industries.

A good place to start is thinking about what you want from life without work. Where do you want to be? Where does your partner and your kids want to be? What do they want out of life? From there you can assess the financial needs and plan accordingly.

_ZeD_•2m ago
> how many more years do I need to work in tech?

The right answer should be "until you are able to do it".

That's the whole premise of welfare. Anything less or more is privilege/vice

baggachipz•54s ago
Same here, I just need to figure out what I realistically want to do. Health care is the primary requirement; enough money to get by and not hit my retirement accounts is a relatively close second.
JKCalhoun•38s ago
Your call, of course. I looked at when my youngest was to head off to college (when the nest would be empty) and I marked my calendar. To your point, while I was at age 57, it didn't seem like I needed to continue to accumulate the spoils of a software engineer when I had the 529's, the 401k by that point.

And so at the appointed time, I walked away.

(My retirement plans though also involved leaving the Bay Area—which I did not want to do while I had kids in school. Selling the Bay Area house, buying one in Nebraska paid the early retirement—why I thought it necessary to move in order to retire.)

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