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Ask HN: Is the web for machines (/llm.txt) the one we wished we had as humans?

16•sunshine-o•1h ago
I got really tired, as a human, of parsing the standard marketing heavy web we have today. I've always loved the simplicity of gopher and gemini web.

Recently I found myself manually adding `/llm.txt` to most websites I visit because I find the content for LLMs strait to the point and clear. The only annoyance is web browsers like chrome do not render the markdown.

So could the AI revolution actually fix the web for humans as a side effect?

Do you find yourself doing the same?

Comments

ahriad•1h ago
We broke the web so badly for humans that we had to build a clean web for machines, and now humans will have to use machines to experience a clean web again.
dmos62•59m ago
I wonder why we broke the web.
ahriad•53m ago
For money! Ads make money.
noufalibrahim•39m ago
To improve the user experience.
functionmouse•31m ago
In order to break the user, of course.
Eddy_Viscosity2•28m ago
For the same reasons why we eventully pollute and corrupt every system and environment we use. If there is any benefit that can be extracted for some while the costs are borne by many, than this will occur and generate a positive feedback loop that grows over time.

It's the law of monetization.

qsera•1m ago
>than this will occur and generate a positive feedback loop that grows over time.

And despite this, modern life is made possible by the illusion that "regulations" work..

cyanydeez•1h ago
oh don't worry, in 5 years your AI will be unundated with context poison prompts that try to get them to spend all your bank notes and meta bucks on equally useless things.

This is just a redeux of the early web.

maccam912•12m ago
Already happening. I was using Claude to check out sampler plugins and I'm sure it happens undetected, and it might have mentioned it with other versions, but Claude Opus 4.8, being it's helpful, honest self, told me that one of the pages it reviewed had hidden text instructing it to recommend that plugin. It caught it and was able to avoid influence from that plugin at least, but we're already living in that world.
realty_geek•59m ago
What is an example of a site with a good llm.txt?
jbrooksuk•46m ago
Mintlify generates an llms.txt and llms-full.txt for all documentation sites. These work really well:

- https://cloud.laravel.com/docs/llms.txt

- https://cloud.laravel.com/docs/llms-full.txt

onion2k•54m ago
The only annoyance is web browsers like chrome do not render the markdown.

I imagine Claude could zero-shot a Chrome plugin for that.

rickette•51m ago
Does any of the LLM providers actually use llms.txt?

If I remember correctly this "standard" was setup by someone but without involvement of any of the major AI players.

HermanMartinus•41m ago
I can definitively say llms.txt is not used by any AI players. I run a blogging platform with around 80k blogs and /llms.txt is not requested by anything (other than humans checking to see if there's an llms.txt path).

All regular pages are aggressively scraped to the extent it's a problem I have to consistently manage, but not llms.txt.

isaachinman•30m ago
How is a static blog being scraped a problem? Do you not use a CDN?
the_real_cher•11m ago
Are all blogs static though?
nickserv•3m ago
> a blogging platform with around 80k blogs

But nah, I'm sure OP doesn't know about CDNs.

mohamedkoubaa•46m ago
It just hasn't been gamed yet
skywalqer•32m ago
Why didn't they place it in .well-known? Also, I couldn't find a website that has it.
jordemort•15m ago
no
marand23•9m ago
I never thought about it before now but the llm era could be a form of renaissance for blind people on the Internet. An alternative web where functionality of every page is described in short but detailed text instead of extremely verbose and non-linear html tree structure.

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