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Waymos cause "way mo" injuries per mile driven than for-hire vehicles in NYC

https://gothamist.com/news/are-waymo-robotaxis-actually-safer-than-nyc-uber-and-taxi-drivers
6•laserson•56m ago

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floxy•47m ago
Anyone have the source for the three Waymo serious injuries or deaths? I feel like I would have heard about these on HN. Only thing I've heard of is one feline fatality and a school-aged pedestrian who was bumped, but appeared not to be injured.
lotsofpulp•39m ago
Presumably somewhere in the links below, although I doubt the accuracy of the claims.

https://www.openplans.org/how-for-hire-autonomous-vehicles-i...

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e71380706dc865d40a6f...

josefresco•38m ago
"have a significantly higher rate of crashes with a serious injury or fatality than the existing New York City for-hire fleet"

Ok

"Waymo's fleet has not yet driven enough miles to support that they are safer than for hire vehicle drivers."

If there's not enough data to show they're "safer" than there also isn't enough data to show they are "less safe".

pedvide•13m ago
That depends on what your hypothesis is. If it is that Waymo cars are safer than for-hire (which I guess it's what Waymo claims), then you need enough data to reject the null hypothesis that they are equally safe. Right now there doesn't seem to be enough data to do this, so you can't conclude they are safer. They could be equally safe or more dangerous.
lokar•5m ago
I thought it was the reverse. Waymo wants to be compared to all drivers, this critic says they should be compared to taxi drivers.
lokar•6m ago
Are they arguing that NYC taxi drivers are safer then average drivers nationwide?

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