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Waymo CEO explains why Tesla's camera-only self-driving falls short

https://electrek.co/2026/08/04/waymo-co-ceo-camera-only-self-driving-tesla/
13•theanonymousone•52m ago

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randyrand•29m ago
Right. But are $200K worth of extra sensors actually worth it or are 10+ cameras already safe enough?

This article makes no attempt to answer the actual meat of the question.

Ultimately, people will vote with their wallet.

p.s. I wonder if you could prevent glare by placing an LCD-like device in front of the lens dynamically blocking out the sun.

curuinor•22m ago
Article has a paragraph about how lidar is rapidly getting cheaper, so the camera comparison is only temporary

Dolgov also pushed back on the one knock that camera-only fans always reach for: cost. Waymo is on its sixth generation of hardware, and he said each generation has drastically cut the price. Betting against sensors like lidar on today’s prices, he warned, means betting on “a number that has a fairly short shelf life.”

dgrin91•12m ago
Thats the million (billion? trillion?) dollar question. Will it get cheap enough? Will it get cheap enough to put on 100 million+ vehicles and be competitive with cameras? I honestly don't know the answer, but I haven't seen strong evidence to point to yes.
tqi•11m ago
"Ultimately, people will vote with their wallet"

Seems like a bad way to legislate this, since everyone else on the roads pays the price for cut rate self driving

foxyv•8m ago
Personally I would rather vote to ban them if they aren't safe enough. If car makers want to cheap out at the expense of public safety they should go to prison for the people they kill.
theshrike79•11m ago
Lidar will give you XYZ (z = distance) on a single datapoint, cameras give you XY and you need to calculate the Z from multiple cameras.

Lidar is ugly and expensive, but requires way fewer cycles to calculate distances. And it works through fog and even some obstacles, nor does it care about glare or get "scared" of shadows.

If we had infinite compute in the car, cameras would be the obvious solution ...but we don't. You can get "Pretty good" with cameras, but still people find specific spots where the car is 100% sure a shadow under a bridge is a car or something stupid like that.

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