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I don't enjoy the Internet any more

https://btao.org/posts/2026-08-17-i-dont-enjoy-the-internet/
46•g0xA52A2A•40m ago

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ColdStream•33m ago
I with them on that. The internet is basically just infrastructure for email and some media like a podcast, otherwise the only reason I am here is because... well, I'm forced to be on a computer most of the week and not all of it is 'productive'. But after work, weekends, holidays I do not touch it.
King-Aaron•24m ago
> Learning about the world through 500-character snippets, or 30-second videos, is not a serious way to engage with knowledge. It triggers our worst instincts in terms of tribalism and groupthink and makes us intellectually lazy.

I can't agree more with this.

ColdStream•10m ago
Brevity is an art form, one that most do not have. Just because something is short doesn't mean it is bad so long as it is sculpted just right. 99.9999% of stuff nowadays is not sculpted it is just simplified for quick reactions.
NewJazz•5m ago
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akersten•24m ago
I'm simultaneously hearing that the internet is more addicting than cigarettes to the point where multiple states are finding success levying gigantic fines on companies for having too good of a product, and also that the internet is boring and drab. Are we on two different internets? Is the author simply immune from the hypnosis of social media?

Anyway, the real internet is and always has been/will be smaller forums brought together by a common interest. Think back to the MMORPG private server communities of the 00's/10's. Kind of hacker news fits into that bucket today but even still a lot of the brainrotted brigading and average takes from reddit I'm seeing more often here (not calling out this post in particular; referring to the comment sections mostly).

rockskon•21m ago
"Too good of a product" is an odd way to put it when you could apply the same logic to slot machines.
ColdStream•21m ago
Cigarettes is a good analogy. It is both addictive but broadly doesn't really help out the individual consuming them.
Terr_•11m ago
> more addicting than cigarettes [...] also boring and drab

That's not actually a contradiction.

With additions, it's quite common for someone to do $THING not because of any durable sense of happiness, but to "feel normal" because not doing it feels empty or wrong.

forgetfreeman•23m ago
I am sick to death of the seemingly obligatory oh-but-im-all-in-on-ai disclaimer embedded in what is otherwise a (totally valid) critique of AI. Have the courage of your convictions already.
marsten•10m ago
I think most people see AI as an economic inevitability, immune to what any of us thinks. Why spend the time and energy making a reasoned critique if nobody has a real choice in the end? It's like railing against the concept of money or the existence of the mosquito.
bblb•23m ago
Stop absorbing everything. Limit yourself.
overtone1000•7m ago
There is a point beyond which the probability of finding meaningful content is too low to justify the work required to find it. Beyond this point, limiting yourself means never trying.

The juice ain't worth the squeeze.

teekert•22m ago
I agree, but if we're being very honest I think the reason is just nostalgia. And I think that you can still find what you're looking for, but it's less in-your-face (as in; it's not a url on altavista.com).

We're older now, being young was great, we had infinite time to roam and discover and have nice things (and our first real six-string, and trying different things and not thinking about tomorrow). The youth nowadays also has infinite time, and they fill it in their own way. They like how things are, even though we don't like it and yearn for the days of yore.

It is the way of things.

tayo42•17m ago
Pretty sure discord is the PHPbb of today. That seems to be the place where people's congregate and the communities are smaller.
ColdStream•4m ago
It does have that feeling still but one does get the sense that they are on the path toward aggressive monetization.
GPerson•9m ago
Earlier today I saw that Tik Tok has 2 billion monthly active users and the average user uses it for 100 minutes a day. The app is so addictive that I feel it’s not right to say the user using it every day for 100 minutes at a time is enjoying themselves. To me this doesn’t look like an organic expression of the youth’s desire to explore and create in ways different from precious generations.

1/4th of the humans in the world (many of them youth) are mindlessly scrolling short form content for almost 2 hours a day (and this is just Tik Tok). That’s a problem!

teekert•7m ago
xvxvx•21m ago
Last week I finally deleted my LinkedIn account, the last social account I had. This week, I'm close to deleting my YouTube account. There's less content I want to see and more slop than ever. Apple Music is on the chopping block. These days, I only use it to preview vinyl records that catch my eye. Once my iPhone dies, I'm done with smartphones.

The internet had so much potential. Shame.

sickophancy•19m ago
What's the rationale behind ditching musicapp? It just delivers files to you with some UI fluff on top.
ColdStream•14m ago
I will say this with ditching the smart phone. I have done it but also gone back to it. But it is merely used for specific tasks. SMS, a camera, weather report, the occasional podcast or audio book. And that's about it. Things that are difficult to do on a flip phone but alright on a 'smart' phone.

I have said it many times. Look at the original iPhone presentation. It was a device that was very deliberate. It wasn't made to addict, it was made to be productive. Get in, do the thing you want and then move on. If only it stayed that way.

protocolture•12m ago
I really liked my Windows Phone, mostly because it didnt have apps on it.

Although it did have facebook, it was facebook delivered by Microsoft engineers and was missing a lot of features.

fhub•8m ago
At least with youtube you can turn off your watch history and a whole bunch of other things. Then proactively curate playlists. Cudos for Youtube for making it really easy to opt out of "the algorithm"
sickophancy•21m ago
The problem isn't the internet but rather the sites that people use on it, and the monolithic nature of "social media".

Social media will be viewed as a failed experiment in the future.

ColdStream•18m ago
Social media is a race to the bottom. Who can make the most addictive platform possible while also preventing others from getting too much of a foot hold.

Also, the scale of the media they must process means 'the algorithm' is a feature not a bug. It was always going to devolve into echo chambers.

It is funny seeing writers from the 1950's through to the 2000's all figure out the horrors this would unleash even if they didn't have a clue on the specifics of the technology.

I agree it will be seen as a failure but I suspect it is only once it has a point of absolute devastation that it cannot be ignored any more. I don't know what that will look like or when but it will be horrible.

S3verin•18m ago
I always appreciate a good Disco Elysium reference.
__MatrixMan__•9m ago
The internet is fine. It's the web that sucks now. It matters, because we can build a different web without throwing out the internet.

We'll have to walk away from the attention economy, that'll be a journey that each has to take singly, but we don't have to walk back to the 1980's. We can build something that works for communication, but that doesn't work for advertising.

We can steganographically hide it in AI slop, and we can trick our enemies into hosting it for us for free. It might even be fun.

Bob_bo•5m ago
You should try chatting with a large language model—it's incredibly useful! The only thing is, I'm not sure if the answers it gives are actually correct.
jdw64•5m ago
I think it's time for people to have their own homepages. Building and customizing a homepage is more fun than you'd think.
That's indeed true, I share your concern, and I think most will call 2 hr/day rookie numbers. But there is also youth out there that do things differently.

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