It’s interesting how AI may both raise and lower the quality of software. It’s very easy to send an AI agent on an open-ended bug hunt, and if it wastes a bunch of time and effort and finds nothing, no big deal. Time is much more important for a human developer with a salary.
Supermancho•37m ago
I don't care if you call it an over-engineered looping machine or what, there are concrete benefits to using LLMs for this. They work faster than developing your own looping algorithm and more often produce useful results than not.
dmix•34m ago
Finding the bugs with LLMs is easy. Reviewing the output, cleaning it up, and making sure it doesn't break something else is the hard part.
bewareofscams•8m ago
No, you frame it wrong. It's not reviewing output, it's (at the very least in this particular case) reviewing the outcome, - and without LLMs you ain't getting to review anything.
This ship has sailed, LLMs do find bugs, do save time, and do tasks dweebs considered art or craft (unable to do real either) with flying colors.
shevy-java•5m ago
> LLMs do find bugs, do save time
They find bugs but whether they save time is nowhere near as clear as you try to insinuate here.
pixl97•4m ago
They save time in finding bugs.
lukan•2m ago
And for me they also save time in fixing bugs.
eviks•33m ago
But what's your expectation of the net?
shevy-java•6m ago
I dislike AI, but if AI finds real bugs then this is in my opinion objectively a positive thing. Of course the question is what constitutes a real bug.
pixl97•2m ago
Unfiltered models will help build exploits for the bugs they find, so there is some means of measuring their efficacy.
VCFundedGenYer•19m ago
The fruits of using LLMs to code.
You'll waste far more time finding what it quietly and subtly wrecked than you would have if you just coded it yourself.
vegnus•17m ago
You're not reading it right. The bug was found using a vibecoded fuzzer.
12j3afAv•10m ago
I wonder from where Claude stole this fuzzer.
jaggederest•12m ago
Those sneaky LLMs going 7 years into the past and committing as a human:
dabinat•48m ago
Supermancho•37m ago
dmix•34m ago
bewareofscams•8m ago
This ship has sailed, LLMs do find bugs, do save time, and do tasks dweebs considered art or craft (unable to do real either) with flying colors.
shevy-java•5m ago
They find bugs but whether they save time is nowhere near as clear as you try to insinuate here.
pixl97•4m ago
lukan•2m ago
eviks•33m ago
shevy-java•6m ago
pixl97•2m ago