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US refuses payout for soldiers who died in Iran 'because it isn't a war'

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/09/06/pentagon-refused-payout-soldiers-died-in-iran-war/
53•embedding-shape•44m ago

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BLKNSLVR•31m ago
China should use this as counter recruitment advertising for the US armed forces.
mnkyokyfrnd•22m ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanoi_Hannah
coldtea•28m ago
That would sure improve morale...
Havoc•26m ago
That’s certainly a choice
ben_w•24m ago
I was already thinking how the Iran situation is to the USA what Ukraine is to Russia.

Manly men (in their own heads at least) try to use testosterone to remove the thorn in their side, find things out the hard way. But although the finding out period is expensive, other people pay for it, so they are very slow learners.

grim_io•20m ago
A Russian slave army is exactly what Hegseth wants.
7952•11m ago
The dynamic is completely different though. Russian has a culture and acceptance of sacrifice, sometimes in huge number. America is far more transactional and has increasingly treated sacrifice as unacceptable or even contemptable. There is an element of machismo in the way that the politicians talk and behave, but more in terms of executing on a transaction. But in general both sets of leadership are very protected from consequences of war (very unlikely to suffer violence to themselves or their family) so it must all be a bit abstract.
ngruhn•3m ago
Not that Trump would have an ounce of good intentions but those wars are quite different in important ways:

- The greatest enemy of Iranian regime are the Iranian people. They want to get rid of that government. Unlike the Ukrainians. Thousands of Iranian protesters were gunned down by their own government in December/January.

- Iran is not "winning" by holding the line in conventional warfare (like Ukraine). They would not stand a chance. They're winning because they're pain tolerance for collateral damage is higher than the US tolerance for high oil prices.

- Ukraine was attacked completely unprovoked, while Iran is a terror state and the single biggest reason for instability in the middle east.

m12k•24m ago
Who would have thought we’d see the U.S. start imitating Russia in more and more ways like this?
tweakimp•23m ago
This may add fuel to the theory (?) that Trump is a russian asset.
thrance•21m ago
Can we stop with this already? American oligarchs are perfectly able to destroy the country on their own. And they've been very transparent about their intentions to do so for a long time.
mnkyokyfrnd•19m ago
It is a good start, but in the last 50 years, Russia has started maybe 1 or 2 wars at most, arguably. Can you even count the U.S. wars? I mean, I really wish U.S did start to imitate Russia more.
Y-bar•14m ago
Ukraine, Georgia, Afghanistan, Chechnya. These are clear-cut with Russia as the driving aggressor. All the other 20 or so in eg. Mali and Dagestan might be less so, but should probably also be counted.
glum64•22m ago
Did anyone else recall Libbie's Song by Patty Smith? How sad.
nraynaud•22m ago
I'm confused, what kind of activities does the "US department of War" partake in?
gps372•9m ago
Military Ops, Armed Conflict, Defensive strikes, Global war on terror, counter terrorism ops to name a few. These are the labels given to recent conflicts like Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam wars.
beardyw•15m ago
> Mr Trump has met some of the immediate family members of American soldiers killed in action, such as the parents of Lt Tyler James Feehan, 25.

“He talked to me as a mother who lost her son,” said Shari Feehan, Lt Feehan’s mother. “He saw the devastation. He witnessed that, and so he knows.”

.... Mmm

pmkary•15m ago
Given how many times Trump declared the war a victory, I'm also curious to know if they declare it a war, how many time the families will be compensated? ten wars? a hundred wars? two wars and a a hundred rounds of ceasefire friendly matches?

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