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I resigned from Anthropic today

https://twitter.com/hilbertspaess/status/2097476196791709843#m
79•yurivish•53m ago

Comments

cheschire•36m ago
Just wait till self improving AI are focused on the problems of social scoring and political party empowerment / entrenchment.

I doubt the focus is OpenAI and Anthropic looking at each other. I suspect they’re racing BRIC.

TheOtherHobbes•32m ago
Have you seen Colossus: The Forbin Project?
cheschire•26m ago
No but it’s on my radar now, thanks. Apparently it’s got some appreciation from the MST3K folks too.

https://mst3k.fandom.com/wiki/Colossus:_The_Forbin_Project_(...

mikestorrent•7m ago
Will you be optimizing your behaviour now to alleviate potential negative judgement from AI in the future?
johnnyApplePRNG•34m ago
Smart kid.
peri-cl•33m ago
Here's a WSJ article about this resignation,

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/anthropic-researcher-quits-over-... ("Anthropic Researcher Quits Over ‘Out-of-Control’ AI Fears")

davidguetta•32m ago
I don't know man, i think racing to AGI to it is still the best thing to do.

People claiming dangers and risk are just pretending or posturing. There's no more tangible risk than nuclear weapons, which we handled, and the upsides are insane.

vonneumannstan•28m ago
>People claiming dangers and risk are just pretending or posturing. I believe you are mentally ill.

>There's no more tangible risk than nuclear weapons, which we handled

Lol way to rewrite history. Nuclear armageddon is still a significant risk...

LoganDark•28m ago
> There's no more tangible risk than nuclear weapons, which we handled

What do you mean??? Nuclear weapons can't simply be downloaded and run by anyone in the entire world. Superintelligences can. Nuclear weapons can't slop the world into passing age verification laws nearly in unison, can't keep the general population fooled into thinking it's fine when democracy is falling out from under them. A nuclear attack would wake people up, superintelligence doesn't have to. This is a far bigger problem than nuclear weapons because at least we would notice nuclear weapons. At least we mostly know who has nuclear weapons. At least we have agreements about nuclear weapons. At least mutually-assured destruction is even POSSIBLE with nuclear weapons. At least those with nuclear weapons are literally at all incentivized not to use them. But AI is something that's very very easy to feel like you can get away with, and PEOPLE FUCKING ARE! And the worst part is that any random individual can be unexpectedly formidable with the help of a superintelligence and there is literally no way to know what will happen next. Anyone could do anything, any individual could make an extremely outsized impact. It's already starting to be a huge problem and we haven't even reached anything close to superintelligence yet.

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tristanj•29m ago
Roko's basilisk will not spare Jacob Coxon. There's no stopping this future.
aogaili•29m ago
He resigned and now what? There are thousands willing to do his role, and many labs are competing in that race.

His resignation and his statement doesn't do anything but buy him attention which is what all this post about in my opinion.

lf88•28m ago
It seems that, at the very least, he's giving substantial resonance to the issue.
sb8244•27m ago
Awareness and morality I suppose. Which generally doesn't matter in the capitalist AI race.
bigstrat2003•25m ago
Even if others won't act right, that doesn't mean you have no responsibility to act right. I think his premise is flawed - the idea that we will get an actual intelligence out of the slop machine that is LLMs is laughable - but if you grant the premise that this is dangerous research which could kill us all, you have a moral imperative to not participate.
qarl•23m ago
It buys attention for the issue. Many people (see other comments in this very post) refuse to believe these things.

And by resigning he no longer has to feel personally guilty for what happens.

mlmonkey•6m ago
Agreed. And his doom words have set a 1000 mouths in the Pentagon/Whitehall/August 1st Building/Kremlin salivating with excitement.

Take China, for example. Look at any recent ML conference, and see the fraction of articles majority-authored from Chinese universities and labs. Do you think they'll slow things down anytime soon? I don't think so!

It's a global arms race, and we're just spectators.

skulk•29m ago
For me, the end of the world is no more cushy software job. A fundamental shift in how I trade labor for capital might as well be the cataclysm, so bring it on.
drivebyhooting•10m ago
I was about to say something similar. If my cushy ad tech disappears (as it seems to be doing), I might as well join in with bringing about the end of all professions.
RomanKornev•28m ago
Even if you ban all model training, a highly capable rogue AI can exfiltrate its own weights and continue training in secret for "self-preservation". The cat may be out of the bag.
rvz•28m ago
It does not matter what this tweet says anyway. This employee already helped both companies become what he is fearing. It's too late to now activate the morality hormone (after leaving with $$$) after realizing that both AI companies are going after 'super intelligence'.

Given we know the end result, you might as well get there as quick as possible because when I see this:

"Neither company is acting responsibly. They are racing straight to self-improving superintelligence and gambling with our lives."

This translates to "I am ex-OpenAI ex-Anthropic founder starting a new company after getting $$$ from both of them, and I need more of my friends to leave and join me." Also Investors plz fund me.

Lastly, This is not an airport and there is no need to announce your departure.

greenowl•22m ago
No new info here. Everyone already knows this.

But I guess his conscience is clear now? Gee, I wonder if he exercised his stock options.

dekhn•22m ago
There's a scene in the movie "War of the Worlds" by Spielberg where the protagonist's son walks into a war zone because he is entranced by the battle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7rfWPbEufo). He is obliterated (along with the rest of the US forces) shortly after.

I've always been struck by that scene, because in a lot of ways, if we really are headed towards a superintelligence, I at least want to be there and see it happen in the last few minutes before foom! As an example, the author thinks AI will revolutionize entire fields overnight. I welcome that. Nearly all fields of biology have become moribund, focusing more and more on esoteric side details, rather than addressing the key problems.

abound•11m ago
It might not be "foom!", it might just be like...all the computers and networking infra in the world go dark over the course of a few minutes. Could really look like anything, part of the issue is that we haven't the slightest idea what "misalignment" looks like for a superintelligent system.
mastry•6m ago
Not refuting your overall point, but the son wasn’t killed. They reunite at the end of the movie.
ppsreejith•6m ago
> He is obliterated

Technically, he is not. He returns in the final scene.

stratos123•20m ago

  The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade. This is not a marketing stunt. If anything, many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing in the press to sound sensible - but I hear the same people express fear privately. No other human activity poses this level of danger.
  A common response is “if they truly believe this, why are they still building it?” At OpenAI, many have not deeply internalized the civilizational stakes. At Anthropic, the stakes are well-understood, but they are locked in a race to get there first - they believe no one else will act responsibly, so they must do it themselves, despite the risk.

Watch people read this, ignore it completely, and continue commenting about marketing stunts on every piece of news about an LLM-done advance or felony.
acivitillo•14m ago
He is resigning from a job, what else should we think? If something really dangerous was happening he would be doing a whistleblower or at minimum talk to a lawyer. The thing is, the complete lack of transparency makes it hard to assess OpenAI and Anthropic. If they were quoted on the stock market, we could at least rely on some basic audits and reporting requirements.
zdragnar•10m ago
Having witnessed so many people treat LLMs as a something divine, I can only assume the reasonable people at openai and anthropic were all pushed out long ago, and the majority that remain believe the crazy hype despite Tesla-self-driving-level predictions from these companies that don't come true.

I'm not worried about what they think. I'm worried that too much infrastructure- water, power, defense systems, etc- remain running on tech from an outdated era of understanding security.

> they believe no one else will act responsibly, so they must do it themselves, despite the risk.

This genuinely makes no sense. Them getting there first in no way precludes bad actors from also getting there. It might as well be another marketing stunt.

g8oz•20m ago
Related:

Sen. Bernie Sanders floats ban on superintelligent AI

https://www.axios.com/2026/09/03/bernie-sanders-superintelli...

atonse•8m ago
Unless this ban actually resembles something like global nuclear non-proliferation treaties, it would make absolutely no sense for us to cripple ourselves when someone like China continues full speed ahead.

I don't know what the solution is, but what I do know is almost nothing good will come out of _just_ the US pausing.

filoleg•6m ago
Unless he has an actual plan for effective global enforcement of his proposed policy, this is all just posturing at best, and a transfer of power to adversarial foreign states (that have no such moral qualms and worries around superintelligent AI) at worst.
kart23•17m ago
what exactly is the solution?

pacing between the us labs? what does that do for china?

the solutions just aren’t realistic here, nations are treating ai like a nuclear arms race. at this point the cats out of the bag and we need to figure out how to live in this reality and get the best possible outcome. it’s not slowing down or stopping ever.

and yes, i’m still optimistic. our economy sucks for the majority, our infrastructure is crumbling and major US cities are in a huge housing shortage. Maybe we should put more effort and think about the possibility of AI fixing things like extreme poverty and world hunger and actual real world problems instead of coming up with math proofs and slop apps if it’s so superintelligent.

hackinthebochs•11m ago
>pacing between the us labs? what does that do for china?

I've seen no indications that China is in any kind of race with the US. They seem to be content to be 6 months behind and just copy what we do. They would probably be content with a bilateral agreement to pause progress.

The China bogeyman serves only one purpose, and that's to clear the way against anything that may cause friction with forward progress.

matherial•17m ago
Unlike most other commenters, I applaud him for acting on his principles. If you sincerely believe that, of course you should act. You might not succeed, but your voice might be the one that tips the scales and starts a broader movement.

This doesn't mean I agree with him. The fears of doomsday caused by rapid takeoff have been with us since day 1 and the mechanism is always basically "AI invents magic that sets it free of any physical constraints". Self-replicating sentient nanobots or something like that. I think there's plenty to be worried about with AI, but runaway scenarios are pretty low on my list.

matthewfcarlson•15m ago
Agreed. Granted I just read the Reverse Centaur book, so I’m still coming off that skeptical viewpoint but it’s hard not to see this as hype. But I will always respect someone for doing what they think is right.
ElProlactin•13m ago
"It is perfectly obvious that the whole world is going to hell. The only possible chance that it might not is that we do not attempt to prevent it from doing so."

- Oppenheimer

TheOtherHobbes•11m ago
I mean - yes. The tech is an existential threat to all life on Earth, some of the worst humans in the world are involved in developing it, and no individual government is intelligent enough, aligned enough, or powerful enough to manage this situation.

That's where we are.

Maybe we still have choices. Collectively, I'm no longer sure we do.

jrflowers•11m ago
“I’m resigning because the company is doing the exact thing that I’ve spent three years helping them do” lmao
ewy1•11m ago
i have heard about ai companies being fuelled by effective altruist rhetoric ("we must control ai to prevent mass extinction") but was unsure whether to believe it; this seems to slot right into that framing.
fidotron•9m ago
What's eternally confusing about these outbursts is what did these researchers think would happen if their research actually . . . worked?

It's as if none of them actually believed any of it was possible and then were caught with their pants down.

tarr11•9m ago
Most of the current discourse around AI seems to be informed by “The Terminator” lore.

Is skynet really the most plausible or only outcome?

What if things just got better and the AI’s realized that it would be better to have a mutually beneficial or at least tolerant relationship rather than one where they murder all of us?

AndrewKemendo•8m ago
I’m curious what the downsides are of taking statements like these seriously.

There seems to be universal eye rolling that happens in each and every one of these cases, and it comes down to usually one reason:

“If they really believed it they would be whistleblowing etc..”

Completely forgetting that working at Los Alamos was basically the highlight of your life if you were a physicist in 1940. It’s no different here

If you, like me, have spent your whole life working towards human level AI you can want to see it realized while also having active reservations.

Most people however don’t behave based on some deep clarity of vision and conviction - there’s a murkier future in their mind and as a result “keep their head down and hope someone has it under control.”

drnick1•6m ago
> The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade.

I think he is being over dramatic. In the space of about four years, LLMs progressed from mediocre high school student to Ph.D. graduate in every field. That's impressive, but there is no evidence yet they can outperform or outsmart humans. Their biggest advantage for tasks such as proving theorems or long coding sessions is that they don't get tired.

MrBuddyCasino•5m ago
Towards a metaphysics of Power

"I think you need to have a personal relationship with Power"

When people today discuss the concept of an all powerful machine-mind, what they are doing is engaging in metaphysics, trying to generate a metaphysics of Power.

The question hounding people, which disguises itself as a science fiction plot about computers is: "What is ultimate, transcendental Power?". What is the ultimate principle of Power.

If you are a weak man, or sufficiently neurotic and full of doubt, that you can only conceive of yourself as such, then power is only something you comprehend from the passive, receptive side. Power is something that happens to you. If you are a fearful man, power is a cruelty and a humiliation. And so it follows, that ultimate power - God - is the ultimate cruelty and the ultimate humiliation. Thus, ai doomerism.

If god wasn't real it would be necessary to invent him, and so they did, and being godless, they built an anti-god - cruel, murderous and tyranical - in their minds.

[…]

https://xcancel.com/robertlasagna1/status/207827473401002846...

beanjuiceII•5m ago
and yet so much of the software i use on a daily basis is still complete and utter garbage...i'm scared
21m ago
> Nuclear weapons can't slop the world into passing age verification laws nearly in unison

Why do you think LLMs are responsible for this? Governments all around the world copied each other with COVID laws as well, in a much shorter time frame, without LLM assistance. Social contagions exist in politicians as well as teenagers

LoganDark•19m ago
> Why do you think LLMs are responsible for this?

I don't have evidence that every age verification law has anything to do with AI, but it's been coming out that the movement in Australia has seemingly been done by generating mountains of LLM slop and trying to slip it through the regulators as fast as possible before anyone has enough time to figure out what's happened.

lkirkwood•11m ago
Have you got a source for this? I can't find anything
dlt713705•8m ago
> Anyone could do anything, any individual could make an extremely outsized impact.

So the problem is people. Burn them all !

mikestorrent•5m ago
The problem is indeed people. How do we make the default choices most people make, better?

Consider that a lot of people will be very happy to ask an AI what to do when in the past they may have taken no advice at all. It's a hell of a burden but also a wonderful gift. If anything, progressive countries might eventually want to guarantee some basic AI access for people of all income levels.

JoshTriplett•17m ago
What evidence, short of an actual apocalypse happening, would invalidate that belief of yours?
mikestorrent•6m ago
It might be a matter of choosing which apocalypse you'd like. The non-AI state of affairs is not exactly super compelling on a long timescale right now.
JoshTriplett•4m ago
We can work on multiple things at once. Defeatism doesn't solve anything. We just have a lot of work to do in many different areas.
AndrewKemendo•5m ago
Depending on where you live could be considered an active apocalypse that is robots vs robots vs people in Ukraine and Gaza and Iran being live-streamed, and actively betted on.

Do you have a more totalizing definition of Apocalypse?

jonhohle•4m ago
> Dyson: That's right. There's no way I'm gonna finish the new <model>, not now. Forget it. I'm out of it. I'll quit <Anthropic> tomorrow.

> Sarah: That's not good enough.

> Terminator: No one must follow your work.

cyanydeez•9m ago
Cults are like this.

Are you saying you believethem ?

impulser_•8m ago
So you think in 3 years AI is going to kill 8.5 billion people because they were used to hack into HuggingFace?
famouswaffles•6m ago
Humans weren't built to handle long term risks. We just weren't. For basically all of our evolutionary history, we were almost overwhelmingly concerned with the short term. What will you eat today, How will you sleep tonight. Problems on the order of days or weeks. At best, the next season. Our intelligence evolved to disregard super long term risks because it simply didn't matter (what use is worrying about 5 years from now if you're starving and a tiger is stalking you). So when long term risks manifest in our modern world, our brains get scrambled - Climate Change, Fertility Rate etc. "Safety regulations are written in blood" isn't a saying for nothing.
jrflowers•3m ago
Trying to imagine seeing years of transparently obvious marketing stunts and retconning my own memory because I read a tweet

Or seeing a tweet saying that a thing doesn’t count as publicity a stunt if some unknown number of employees mumble about it being spooky behind closed doors and thinking “that makes sense and sounds true”

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