Edit: I mean that we should continue to shun antisocial behavior even when it involves LLMs, not that we should blame the technology. The technology isn't an excuse, no technology should ever be an excuse -- that's what I mean by not "accepting" bad things. I don't mean that LLMs are not "worth it" thanks to the abuse, just that we should continue to treat abuse as such rather than giving anybody a free pass.
To me, "accept" means to socially tolerate it. No. Bad. It's not socially tolerable. It is still wrong to use LLMs for evil. I don't think that means LLMs are a fundamentally evil technology, but that does NOT mean anyone should get a free pass to use them FOR evil.
And society will pass laws. Europe has already begun doing so, and the US will once this goddamn corrupt administration is gone. People are already protesting against AI, especially against datacenters and surveillance like Flock. It's only a matter of time until individual actors end up in the focus of protests.
There's now just three possible futures:
- the fire is extinguished, aka the AI actors go bust. Nothing bad happens. Well, a bunch of rich people will be less rich, but society as a whole will be somewhat all right.
- the relief valve (society passing laws) is activated, pressure escapes.
- there is no pressure relief. Eventually, the pressure cooker bursts, aka revolution.
"we need the government to halt model training for us (and potential competitors who are currently behind us) due to hypothetical sci-fi future bad things"
on the one hand, and then
"we should not face consequences for that time we helped a teenager plan a mass shooting"
on the other so effortlessly, so instantaneously. And virtually the entire media helps them do it!
Hear me out, I know common sense says theft is bad, but just think about the hungry children I could feed if the world just agreed to let me take whatever I wanted.
...except AI won't even feed hungry children, it will only make the rich richer and flood the internet with slop.
You know you're starting to be personally affected by the decline of civilization when your brain can conjure up the notion of fire being "invented".
We know we are in trouble.
“Socialize the costs, privatize the profits.”
E: typos
Until that happens, no. Sam Altman is here telling us to accept the cruelty of his actions and his company so that he can be more wealthy.
That thing has been rising for decades - why should Sam Altman now become the culprit and scapegoat?
That of surveillance and the use of pattern matching is a legislative matter - not a matter of regulating RnD.
It is certainly pitched as if it is a claim we should be accepting of individual instances. Which is not the same as accepting that they occur.
There's a big difference between acknowledging that something cannot be universally beneficial and claiming that the bad aspects are inconsequential.
Every invention has positives and negatives. But no inventor or factory is at liberty to force the negatives upon society without regulation, or in Sam's case without being subject to the laws on theft and hacking.
He may as well come out and say "the ends justify the means" and the ends of course benefit Sam, and those subject to injustice, or negative externalities, should be happy that they can pay Sam for a subscription.
Or perhaps "Look, yes I stole, and yes I hacked, but now I've got this amazing tool you can use for free, and when you use it, and give me money for the full version, it will eventually replace you in the workplace and it will reduce you and your kids intellect after you outsource your thinking to it, and become dependent on it, which will be fine because you can just use the tool even more to make up for that."
Of course with a president who believes him to be above the law and American institutions, is it any wonder the people at the top of American society also believe it to be true? Not to mention their cheerleaders in the populous.
Do you mean:
> “I wouldn’t take a trade of saying we will make sure there’s no major hacks, there’s no misuse of this technology, there’s zero scams or all the other bad things that will happen because I think that people will do tremendously – orders of magnitude – more good stuff than bad stuff.”
What’s the mechanism by which this happens? I feel like people making these predictions live on a different planet.
If we assume that they are right: AI is inevitable and certain significant negatives cannot be avoided, then the obvious solution is for society to put together a social safety net for those who are effected. Altman could easily decide to campaign for and donate to a party which made serious strides towards establishing such a safety net.
The fact that they ignore the obvious solution suggests to me that they aren't quite being honest about their motives.
But for the average person, I can't really think of a single net benefit except porn (even then arguable) and porn-adjacent things like roleplay. And AI companies don't even want you to have that.
Unless you are already in a privileged class, AI isn't reducing your working hours, it's not putting more money in your pocket, it's not adding anything to your life. The average person is not going to accept "bad things" when they are truly getting nothing in return.
I also believe the technology itself deserves to be improved so that it can be used for good. That doesn't mean I want more evil or to be more accepting towards evil. Evil should still be shunned.
I suppose monitoring is a good in the eyes of those who influence society.
Sam Altman, Dario Amodei, Elon Musk, David Sacks, etc. All the rest of you proles can fuck off. Stay in your lane.
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I have a lot of interest in seeing how the common person response in this scenario.
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Increased acceptance of political violence begets more political violence which in turn seems to increase its acceptance, see e.g. the killing of the healthcare CEO and subsequent arrest of the killer which significantly increased "democrats" support for political violence [1] so be careful what you ask for.
[1 https://academic.oup.com/poq/advance-article/doi/10.1093/poq...
mdp2021•6m ago
Systemic failure triggers the parasystemic shortcuts. Lack of justice and fairness has grave consequences - they must be curbed with justice and fairness (and their roots) exactly.
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