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Ask HN: Are there things more important than 'humanity', such as empathy?

4•dfps•44m ago
Questions of passing the touring test rely on fooling people that the machine is like a human, but how that machine behaves in situations we would deem important or consequential (eg a man trapped in a room as in Ex Machina) may depend on other things, such as empathy (which is cross species). Opinions?

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KenPainter•34m ago
Kurt Vonnegut said, "damnit you've got to be kind."

Courtesy, compassion, empathy, kindness.

Forget the hypothetical cases from ethics classes. Look around at the people who cross your path and start there.

coolboy1•11m ago
Alan Turing said computers would need to exhibit ESP to be considered human. Specifically telepathy. One could argue clairvoyance is a type of logical reasoning as well. Perhaps the best example of this was how everyone thought Q was an actual person and not one of Elon's primitive military LLMs. It remains to be seen if Hillary really was/is going to be arrested.
smt88•4m ago
I think you’ve constructed a false dichotomy.

Part of a machine convincing us it’s human is displaying empathy, rather than being coldly logical.

One of the reasons people think Claude is sentient (I’m not one of them) is that it responds in very empathetic, emotional ways, especially when it makes a mistake.

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